Is it common for some aspies to not like themselves?

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22 Aug 2023, 3:09 pm

I think indirectly, because our autism makes us easily rejected by society and it's easy to internalize that.


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22 Aug 2023, 3:58 pm

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It is pretty common. Just look at the depression, suicide ideation, and suicide rates of autistics.

Not caring about fitting in is not an autistic trait.


I think that does occur if you have a severe enough level of autism. In my case, my autism is weak enough that I still care about fitting it, but it is strong enough that I really can't.



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22 Aug 2023, 6:26 pm

I personally don't care about fitting in. I'm a furry and into age regressing, after all. I guess to a degree we could say that I do care, because I wouldn't go out in public with a pacifier or anything like that. (If I even start using one in private, which I currently don't.) But I care less than allistic people do.


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23 Aug 2023, 12:43 am

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I'm not a particularly confident person. I wouldn't say that I dislike myself as such. Perhaps though my physical appearance - being overweight specifically, is something I dislike about myself.
I could have written this about myself.

I know what it's like to be slim and often still think I am. And then I look in the mirror. My self esteem has plummeted since I gained weight. I don't like this aspect of myself.



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23 Aug 2023, 8:56 am

renaeden wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
I'm not a particularly confident person. I wouldn't say that I dislike myself as such. Perhaps though my physical appearance - being overweight specifically, is something I dislike about myself.
I could have written this about myself.

I know what it's like to be slim and often still think I am. And then I look in the mirror. My self esteem has plummeted since I gained weight. I don't like this aspect of myself.


Yeah.

I used to be slim also, so becoming a big person physically has been somewhat difficult to adjust to, mentally.



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23 Aug 2023, 11:31 am

"Is It Common For Some Aspies To Not Like Themselves?"

"some"? the solar system contains plenty of neurotypicals and plenty of autistics.

"some" autistics like themselves. some autistics dislike themselves.

some neurotypicals like themselves. some neurotypicals dislike themselves.

but quite frankly i think a disproportionate number of extroverted neurotypicals like themselves WAY too much. they are totally full of themselves. arrogant and annoying. they act like they are perfect.



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23 Aug 2023, 11:34 am

In regards to the thread question, I think it is more likely & common for aspies to be socially ostracised, which can result in low self esteem for some. But then there are other aspies that seem to be like narcissists and love themselves. It would be interesting to know the truth of the matter in regards to the relevant statistic prevalence of confident versus non-confident aspies.



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23 Aug 2023, 11:35 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
renaeden wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
I'm not a particularly confident person. I wouldn't say that I dislike myself as such. Perhaps though my physical appearance - being overweight specifically, is something I dislike about myself.
I could have written this about myself.

I know what it's like to be slim and often still think I am. And then I look in the mirror. My self esteem has plummeted since I gained weight. I don't like this aspect of myself.


Yeah.

I used to be slim also, so becoming a big person physically has been somewhat difficult to adjust to, mentally.


I can relate to this. I don't like being a chonker.


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23 Aug 2023, 11:37 am

funeralxempire wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
renaeden wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
I'm not a particularly confident person. I wouldn't say that I dislike myself as such. Perhaps though my physical appearance - being overweight specifically, is something I dislike about myself.
I could have written this about myself.

I know what it's like to be slim and often still think I am. And then I look in the mirror. My self esteem has plummeted since I gained weight. I don't like this aspect of myself.


Yeah.

I used to be slim also, so becoming a big person physically has been somewhat difficult to adjust to, mentally.


I can relate to this. I don't like being a chonker.


It has happened gradually for me, putting on weight every year in gradual amounts, which adds to up a lot added weight over a period of say, a decade.



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23 Aug 2023, 11:38 am

I certainly wish I weighed less. It can be hard to lose weight if you're otherwise miserable, too, especially if you're an emotional eater.



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23 Aug 2023, 11:39 am

^ I am an emotional eater. And I have persistent depression, so that is probably a factor.



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23 Aug 2023, 1:21 pm

But whatever you do, never, ever get too thin. Then you will be ostracised and mocked beyond your worst imaginings. People will say 'I wish I had your health problems, then I'd be thin like you.'

What does that even mean? Wishing to have health problems? What is wrong with people like that???


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23 Aug 2023, 1:51 pm

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But whatever you do, never, ever get too thin. Then you will be ostracised and mocked beyond your worst imaginings. People will say 'I wish I had your health problems, then I'd be thin like you.'

What does that even mean? Wishing to have health problems? What is wrong with people like that???


There are different levels of thin. If a person looks starved and anorexic then perhaps there is reason for making such a criticism.

I think a lot of folk who skinny-shame are likely just jealous because they are overweight.



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23 Aug 2023, 2:35 pm

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There are different levels of thin. If a person looks starved and anorexic then perhaps there is reason for making such a criticism.

I think a lot of folk who skinny-shame are likely just jealous because they are overweight.


No. There is never a reason to criticise another person's appearance. Ever.

Being 'just jealous' is no reason to wish ill health on yourself, that is crazy. Good health is more important than anything, really.

I was bullied so much that I stopped eating in front of people, I used to hide away to eat, I cut down on what I ate etc. Very, very dangerous for a young girl's health.


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23 Aug 2023, 4:14 pm

KitLily wrote:
No. There is never a reason to criticise another person's appearance. Ever.


I just meant that it would make sense for one person to point out to another that there is something wrong if one person is say... anorexic or starving themselves. And that could be for the other persons benefit, i.e, highlighting the problem. Constructive criticism is a thing.

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Being 'just jealous' is no reason to wish ill health on yourself, that is crazy. Good health is more important than anything, really.


I am unsure of what you mean here? My intention was to state that I thought that some overweight people shame skinny people because they are jealous of the lesser weighted person.

What does that have to do with wishing ill health on oneself?



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24 Aug 2023, 3:31 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
I just meant that it would make sense for one person to point out to another that there is something wrong if one person is say... anorexic or starving themselves. And that could be for the other persons benefit, i.e, highlighting the problem. Constructive criticism is a thing.


Constructive criticism, yes. But 'skinny b|tch' 'thin cow' 'why don't you eat something?' 'what's wrong with you?' type of comment is not helpful. And that is what they say. More mocking than constructive.

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KitLily wrote:
Being 'just jealous' is no reason to wish ill health on yourself, that is crazy. Good health is more important than anything, really.


I am unsure of what you mean here? My intention was to state that I thought that some overweight people shame skinny people because they are jealous of the lesser weighted person.

What does that have to do with wishing ill health on oneself?


Did you read my previous comment? I said that people often say to me 'I wish I had your health problems, then I'd be as thin as you.'

That's just weird isn't it. Someone wishing serious health problems on themselves is very strange.


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