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11 Jun 2024, 12:48 pm

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Like i’ve said before, NT people don’t struggle.


Everyone struggles, some of us just struggle more.

NT’s don’t struggle with getting jobs. Their struggles are minimal. That’s why I wish I was NT.

Yeah, they certainly do struggle with finding work sometimes, and their struggles aren’t always minimal. Sometimes when folks are dealing with depression, it can be hard to see the difficulties that other people are experiencing.

Prove it.

I don’t think that the fact that many people, including NTs, struggle with employment, relationships, or whatever needs to be proven. It’s apparent when one actually engages with other people. Sometimes bias prevents us from acknowledging or even noticing the struggles others might face. People have the tendency of zeroing in on that which seems to fit their preconceived notions. For example, if a NT has an easy time getting a job, we could focus on that rather than their previous difficulties or that of other people which could reinforce our false beliefs.



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11 Jun 2024, 12:50 pm

What kind of job are you after op


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11 Jun 2024, 1:24 pm

f**k it. I’ll just kill myself.



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11 Jun 2024, 9:39 pm

The problem is that interviews are brutal for us. The anxiety can be crushing, especially if you have trouble thinking on your feet. Best suggestion is to go on lots of interviews. Even if you're only marginally interested in the job, the experience will make it less traumatic the more you do it.



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12 Jun 2024, 12:37 am

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I’m sick of how I can’t get a better job because i’m autistic. Interviews feel like i’m a prisoner making a plea to a parole board. I’m trying to convince a bunch of random strangers that I deserve an income. But just like a parole board, most employers say “no”.

Since I am not NT, if masking doesn’t work, i’ve been thinking it wouldn’t be so bad if I died. If I decide to end it, it would be in a way that would not interfere with others (e.g getting hit by vehicle). I want to at least be polite about it.


Getting hit by a vehicle would interfere with others, nobody wants to hit someone when they are driving...even if you ran out in such a way they couldn't stop on time they will still be upset and potentially traumatized that they hit a person.

I don't think you should harm yourself regardless...but getting hit by a car would certainly affect the driver of the car as well.


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12 Jun 2024, 7:09 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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I’m sick of how I can’t get a better job because i’m autistic. Interviews feel like i’m a prisoner making a plea to a parole board. I’m trying to convince a bunch of random strangers that I deserve an income. But just like a parole board, most employers say “no”.

Since I am not NT, if masking doesn’t work, i’ve been thinking it wouldn’t be so bad if I died. If I decide to end it, it would be in a way that would not interfere with others (e.g getting hit by vehicle). I want to at least be polite about it.


Getting hit by a vehicle would interfere with others, nobody wants to hit someone when they are driving...even if you ran out in such a way they couldn't stop on time they will still be upset and potentially traumatized that they hit a person.

I don't think you should harm yourself regardless...but getting hit by a car would certainly affect the driver of the car as well.

I meant not getting hit by a car. I meant going somewhere to die without anyone else around.



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12 Jun 2024, 12:48 pm

I don’t really want to die, just wouldn’t mind if something happened to me.



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12 Jun 2024, 1:35 pm

Yeah that's sad

I can get like that from time to time

I used to be like that all the time when I was younger and I had quite a few near misses and it kind of made me not feel like that any more


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12 Jun 2024, 4:56 pm

I just want the nice things that NTs have.



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12 Jun 2024, 5:09 pm

I have said this before, but the employment frequency for autistic folk, in terms of percentage is something like 22% in paid employment in the UK, whilst NTs are 80% in paid employment in the UK.

I think it is fair to say that autistic folk struggle more than NTs with employment, at least on average.

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https://www.autism.org.uk/what-we-do/news/new-data-on-the-autism-employment-gap



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12 Jun 2024, 5:21 pm

FrostBender wrote:
Redacted full names and addresses of NTs you know that struggle. I don’t believe in anything without evidence.

my late NT sister struggled mightily when her husband died of cancer. after about 8 months of struggling to end her mourning, she couldn't take any more widowhood so she took an early exit. i would call that a struggle.



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12 Jun 2024, 5:23 pm

^^ No one said that autistics don’t tend to struggle more than NTs in terms of finding and keeping employment although the numbers will vary from country to country and everyone, including NTs, can struggle for any number of reasons. It’s not like NTs always have it easy which people often suggest on here. It’s also worth noting that the percentage of autistics includes lower functioning folks.



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12 Jun 2024, 5:31 pm

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I don’t really want to die, just wouldn’t mind if something happened to me.

it could be said that i was passively suicidal [ghastly unhealthy diet, carelessness/accident-proneness, pissing off the wrong folks etc.] for decades. then it occurred to me that i was only hurting myself and gaining nothing. there is no real way out of this life but THROUGH this life. i knew a fella in my aspie group who tried to disconnect his brain with a 20-gauge shotgun, miraculously he survived but lost his face in the process. he useta be a handsome babe of a dude. human bodies are surprisingly durable. we are designed to keep living, no matter how we feel about it. the worst thing that could happen if one tries to exit early, is that we survive but are woefully diminished but with keen memory of what we used to be before we damaged ourselves. that outcome is to be avoided at all costs. the thing that kept me going is i read a "Dear Abby" article called "just for today..." the upshot of the article is that if we just decide "JUST FOR TODAY" to keep going, we can keep up anything if just for a day. then the next day, repeat.



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12 Jun 2024, 5:35 pm

The graph in section 4 (employment), under the sub-heading "figure 2" says it all really.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/disability/articles/outcomesfordisabledpeopleintheuk/2020



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12 Jun 2024, 5:44 pm

^ It doesn’t say it all because we are all individuals with our own strengths and weaknesses. Some autistics have successful careers; some NTs do not. I wouldn’t want anyone to think it’s hopeless, especially if they have specific goals or careers they might like to try in mind.



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12 Jun 2024, 5:56 pm

OP, were you still interested in truck driving? That sounds like it could be a good career choice for someone on the spectrum, not that I know much about it.