Huckleberry Finn

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There are two other characters in the book. They also play an important part. In Huck Finn two con artists “The Duke and the King” pretend to be royalty and perform various stunts to rob people. They introduce themselves as the long-lost heirs of noble houses, one to the Duke of Bridgewater, the other as the Lost Dauphin, the King of France Louis XVII. They would make up schemes to steal money from the common folks. Many times their schemes failed but sometimes their schemes would give them the ability to earn some wealth. But it didn't last. They would go and get drunk and their friends would rob them of their ill gotten wealth.

There were 3 young children, the Wilks family, whose parents just died and they became orphans. The two con artist set up a con and one of them pretended to be their uncle from England. For the Wilks girls it is a silver lining. They see this as their uncles returned home, and a joyous family reunion, if one tinged with sadness. Of course, we know that the king and the duke are frauds, and so we see that the silver lining is false which makes the whole situation a bit more depressing. Huck alerts the oldest girl of the con and works with her to expose the false pretenders.

After they are exposed, the King and Duke are tar and feathered by the town-folks. Tarring and feathering was a very common punishment in British colonies in North America during 1766 through 1776. Tarring and feathering is a form of public torture where a criminal is stripped naked while wood hot tar is poured onto the person and then they are covered with feathers so that they stick to the tar.

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn tells another story. It is a story about his father. His father was not a nice person. He was addicted to alcohol and lived in the deep woods far from town. In the book Tom Sawyer, Huck had earned a small fortune (six thousand U.S. dollars - in today's dollars this would be equivalent to around $216,000.) This fortune was placed in a Trust Fund until Huck became of age. When Huck's father found out about this money he decided to kidnap his son and steal his fortune from him. So there was Huck trapped deep in the woods. So he did what any smart Aspie would do, he died so his father would be unable to steal his fortune. He staged his own death and fled the scene.

So perhaps the question to ask is "Was his father also an Aspie?" It is said that our condition is hereditary. One of the problems that many Aspies face is drugs. Drugs can destroy our unique characteristics. Back in those days, alcohol was the primary drug of choice. Then there was smoking cigarettes. Now narcotic drugs are king. It destroys minds. Narcotic drugs are very rapidly being replaced with more narcotic versions. A teenager is tricked into consuming drugs and he is stolen.

I think all jimmy m is saying is that he can relate to the characters in a way that he sees them as being similar to himself. Things about himself that he thinks of as aspie or autistic he also sees in the characters. I think that is what most post about "famous person is autistic" or "historic person is autistic" or "fictional person is autistic" are really about. For me it ok for people to see these connections or commonalities in others. It is also ok for someone else to say "perhaps, but not like me" in response.

Yes, but...if you claim that so and so is "autistic" based upon them having decidedly non autistic and highly NT traits, as the op is doing...thats different.
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But yeah...in all fairness we all "know" aspergers/autism only through the lens of our own experiences. You gotta point.
Its subjective and hard to tell whats your autistic experience and what is your generic human experience.

And the world of 'experts' dont help much when they feed us conflicting and even contradictory ideas of what autism is supposed to be(like are we ...unable to think abstractly? Or are we too wrapped up in abstract thought?).

Hi Jimmy m.

A warm greeting to all of you: I have interacted quite a bit with several people here in the forum, although I have made some communication errors.


I wanted to thank you James.

You have helped me so much these past few months.

My depression is at high levels, I didn't think I'd write here again (I'm struggling a lot):

I can't interact for a long time in written form.

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About Jimmy m. : As you know, I'm a thinker in images.

I don't know how many of you are exactly like that.


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I know your story very well Jimmy m., and, if, the fantastic in the world outside of fiction exists, you, Jimmy m. , you definitely manage to get closer to this fantastic world.

A few days ago I started treatment for major physical problems.

In the waiting room there were two books, on a shelf full of other books.

They were: the sixth sense (Marion Zimmer Bradley), and the seventh sense (Nader Butto).

My visit was delayed by almost 80 minutes and I read them both quickly (Speed ​​reading, they were still highlighted in yellow in the most important sentences).

I didn't look for the two books.
I just chose 1 book randomly: the sixth sense came looking for me.

While in contact with this book there was the seventh sense.

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During a visit with the doctor we talked about the seventh sense.

I know the sixth sense, sometimes it comes back to join me.

But I didn't know the seventh sense.

The particular thing is that my doctor worked in the same facility as Nader Butto:

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Sometimes books come looking for you: they call you back to them.

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My first book was Peter Pan.
In the non-original version but revised if I'm not mistaken in Disney-esque form.

I learned to read because the images gave meaning to the written words.

I was 4 years old and I found it in the attic.

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I remember the Peter Pan that is present in you, James.

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Post vaccine, I had several adverse symptoms.

It happens: this is not a statement against vaccines, which will remain our only defense against diseases, as antibiotics will be useless (new ones have not been sought for years now).

One symptom, and I didn't investigate this was a transient ischemic attack, which lasted 12/14 hours.
Half his body no longer moved.

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I don't think it left any traces.

On that day I was alone.

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I think the human brain is so complex that, if trained and tested, it repairs itself.

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The mental form of a person over 70 is crystallized, while that of a less advanced person is fluid.

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In your case, recovering so quickly is the result of a special mind.

Your stroke, I remember, was very large and affected various areas.
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The meaning of life.

Interesting to think about.

It was a question I had asked myself since I was a boy.

I hypothesize the answer lies in the repetitiveness of a very simple mathematical law.

The rule is golden.

Its discovery, however, spans millennia.

Huck Finn

No idea if they're autistic or not, but as an Aspie I can relate to their attitude to society, or Mark Twain's. There's something kind of autistic about that, standing outside of society and all, going off and doing their own genuine thing rather than getting involved with the hypocrisy of those around them.

Sorry if I write into your conversation.

There are several studies that assert the unexpected dependence on substances in autistic people in greater quantities than in NTs.


*I also thought it was less likely.

The studies until I had to read them were still few.

I don't know where it's true or where it's false.

I report a study that can be consulted.

There are others.

The answer may lie in the autistic condition itself.

That is: to have comfort.

Cases of depression, anxiety (here the discussion would be complex and I won't address it and it is at the amygdala level increased by 20%), and other interconnected pathologies, I fear, can predispose to greater ease for this to happen.

I'll post first what I do: I take a drug to reduce sensory disturbances.

As an autistic person I am against drugs.

It took me many years to avoid taking them.

Then the desire to create a social life prevailed.
*I have lost many of my nemonic skills and mathematical peculiarities.
Although in tests on the IQ of an autistic person they have less impact given the greater long-term presence of almost double the number of neurons compared to NT people.



Warning: the drugs are not studied on autistic individuals, but on heterogeneous individuals.



Some drugs mimic the effects of narcotic substances, others only the mechanism of action.

Now a bibliographical reference:Considering that the relationship between autism spectrum disorders and substance use is not yet known in depth, it is important not to take anything for granted: it is known, in fact, that people with autism can actually develop substance use disorders, both for a family predisposition, and for the immediate advantages given by the substances themselves.
In the absence of standardized intervention protocols, in-depth knowledge of the patient is essential to find the most suitable form of treatment to satisfy his needs and to make the intervention effective.

What does the data say?

Considering the peculiar characteristics of autism spectrum disorders, it has always been believed that these serve as deterrents for the development of substance use disorders, which were therefore thought to be less frequent in the autistic population than in the neurotypical population.

In reality, although the data available is still scarce, it has been seen that at least in clinical settings the use of substances affected between 19 and 30% of subjects with autism.

In particular, a recent study by Butwicka and collaborators (2017) suggested that autistic people actually have a greater risk of developing substance use disorders, probably due to shared familiarity with both conditions.

Furthermore, the study showed that the trend of substance use disorders in subjects with autism can change in the presence of a further diagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and/or cognitive disability, which appear to increase the risk, as well as other psychiatric comorbidities.

In particular, it seems that the main reasons for the use of alcohol and substances in individuals with autism are the presence of anxiety and other psychiatric disorders, and some consequences of use, such as the reduction of social inhibition, the possibility of forgetting own problems and experience a sense of peace, the ability to get through the day and overcome frustration.

In reality, although these advantages are present in the short term, in the long run the negative effects of regular substance intake are more evident, which can significantly worsen the quality of life of people on the spectrum: among these, the worsening of the ability to predict the consequences of one's behavior and the increase in difficulty in complying with formal and informal rules.

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As for the traits of deception, I don't know.

Because we are anything but mimetic.

Sometimes we seem conceited, other times minimal.

It could mean using a strategy
Of survival.


In this, for example, we would succeed.


Because it would have an end.


I hardly think we would be able to deceive others, we usually spend our lives making the world progress.

The greatest scientists of all time are largely autistic with high mental functioning.

Precisely because we have a non-social mind, but a different one that uses unconventional intelligence.

Problems are solved using precisely this form of intelligence.

We are not only socially deficient, but also gifted for human evolution, and very often without any remunerative personal advantage.

Only to pursue one's own special interests, in these very high cases I mean.

I also want to specify that we are not better than others but still different.

The spectrum is very broad and the discussion is complex.

How did we determine that the fictional characters of Huck Finn and N-word Jim were both Aspies? You may be right, but where did the definitive conclusion come from?