Trump team fully embraces RFK Jr.'s vaccine skepticism

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Thiomersal is used in vaccines as an anti-bacterial/anti-microbrial ingredient. Bacteria growth often spoil unprotected vaccines, especially when they are not refrigerated properly. Without this ingredient, the vaccines would have a much shorter usable shelf life, even if they are properly stored in a cold environment. Since vaccines cost money to make, it would cost a lot more to be constantly producing vaccines without the preservative than to add it in to batches.

There is another piece to this. It will be critical to be delivered on time during cold transport, as there is less leeway on usable time. If you do not stabilize the vaccine, there will likely be shortages in supply to places further out from the production plant. That is even true here in the U.S.A., whether we realize it or not.

Thank you for proving my point, thimerosal is used because it is cheaper for the makers. Profits and $$$ over safety and health. According to this reasoning I should be more concerned about their profits of than my own safety and health. I should never demand transparency and accountability from from the drug companies and healthcare system as a whole I guess. I should blindly believe that these entities only have altruistic beliefs and humanities best interest as their guide, even when reality constantly shows this to not be true.

I notice everyone keeps avoiding the potential risks from usage of aluminum salts as an adjuvant. Why?

When Americans start dying off in droves - especially children - because of a vaccine ban, that will be the legacy history remembers Trump and RFK Jr for.

Anti-vaccine activist and former presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who’s been promised a prominent health care role by President-elect Donald Trump in his administration, sought to allay concerns Wednesday that he would seek to halt vaccinations.

“We’re not going to take vaccines away from anybody,” he told NPR in an interview this morning after Trump’s overnight victory. He repeated the message a few hours later in an interview with MSNBC.

Instead, Kennedy said he wants to improve the science of vaccine safety, which he said “has huge deficits in it,” so Americans can have all the right information to choose whether to get vaccinated.

“I’m going to make sure scientific safety studies and efficacy are out there, and people can make individual assessments about whether that product is going to be good for them,” he told MSNBC.

Kennedy has made false claims about the safety and efficacy of vaccines, alleging they have caused an increase in autism, but he told MSNBC he’s “never been anti-vaccine.”

Why it matters: The former presidential candidate, who dropped out this summer and endorsed Trump, revealed more of what Trump has promised him.

“President Trump has given me three instructions: He wants the corruption and the conflicts out of the regulatory agencies; he wants to return the agencies to the gold standard, empirically-based, evidence-based agents in medicine that they were once famous for; and he wants to end the chronic disease epidemic with measurable impacts on a diminishment of chronic disease within two years,” Kennedy told NPR.

That could mean firing federal workers, such as those at the Food and Drug Administration’s nutrition division, “that are inept, that are not doing their job,” he told MSNBC.

“They’re not protecting our kids. Why do we have Froot Loops in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients, and you go to Canada, and it’s got two or three?” Kennedy asked, referencing the cereal made by Michigan-based WK Kellogg Co.

He also said the Trump administration would recommend against fluoride in drinking water. Many water systems in the U.S. have added the chemical to drinking water for decades to fight cavities, but Kennedy claims “it’s almost certainly” causing neurological development issues and loss of IQ in children.

He pointed to a recent ruling by an Obama-appointed judge in California, who concluded that a “preponderance of the evidence” showed that fluoridation at 0.7 milligrams per liter, the level considered optimal in the U.S., poses unreasonable risk of reducing children’s IQ.

In that lawsuit, EPA experts argued that while fluoride can be hazardous at certain concentrations, the relationship between dosage and health risk at lower exposure is unclear.

However, the judge recommended the EPA regulate fluoride in drinking water.

“I think fluoride is on the way out because of that court decision. I think the faster that it goes out, the better,” Kennedy told MSNBC.

He also said fluoride is included in toothpaste and thus not needed in drinking water to prevent cavities and pointed out that Austria and Germany don’t add the chemical to water and have “either the same or lower cavity issues” as the U.S.

What’s next?
Kennedy told NPR that he and Trump have not decided whether Trump would name him to a Senate-confirmed position “but that is a possibility.”

He has previously said that Trump promised him control of some federal agencies, including the Health and Human Services and Agriculture departments.

I have a MAGA relative who is convinced that any amount of fluoride is evil. He is also convinced that every case of thyroid disease is due to flouride.

And if you try to argue with him about it, he gets mad. If you're lucky, he just walks away. Sometimes when he gets mad, he slams doors so hard that he breaks the windows in them.

Thyroid cancer??? And I thought fluoride was only used for communist mind control!

Not necessarily thyroid cancer. Thyroids do shut down and create long term issues if you don't take thyroid hormones to replace those you no longer get from the thyroid.

What the relative tried to tell me is that if your iodine levels falls, the thyroid will try to use fluorides in place of the iodine.

Yeah, fluorides can contribute to the problem, but I understand that those are a relatively uncommon cause. Things like infections are far more prevalent. (I think that my thyroid was destroyed by an opportunistic infection after having had the flu.) In his MAGA mind, there is only one cause to any issue.

The makers of vaccines are running a business to make money. They are not in it to lose money. If they made vaccines that spoiled before they could sell them, they would lose money. Longer shelf life means a higher chance that it will get sold while it is still useful. Drug companies employ chemists to make their drugs/vaccines so it goes full circle. This funds advances in science, so not all things are bad.

I am not avoiding discussing aluminum salts. They can have potentially toxic issues in developing individuals. Aluminum absorption has been studied as a possible cause for neurological degradations in older individuals. The use of aluminum cooking ware (pots, pans, utensils and covering sheets) are sources of human consumption. As one cooks with aluminum, acids in foods can slowly react with the metal and form compounds that go into the food. Some foods are so acidic (or basic) that they will dissolve aluminum foil covering them over time and form aluminum salts in the process. I rarely use aluminum in my cooking ware due to these issues. Vaccines have very little aluminum salts in them compared to potential food sources cooked in aluminum.

If you are old enough, there was an old 1980s episode of Mr. Wizard’ World that was on aluminum chemistry. He showed why one should never use oven cleaner (strong base) on aluminum foil. It reacts in an exothermic reaction that gets very hot, hot enough to start a fire. It starts out slowly because aluminum has a protective oxide covering it that has to be overcome before the virgin metal can be reacted with. The reason why it is not shown much anymore is that people have used that knowledge to make things that they should not make. I will leave it at that.

A burgeoning number of studies are demonstrating aluminium in human brain tissue. While research has both quantified and imaged aluminium in human brain tissue in neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental disease there are few similar data for brain tissue from non-neurologically impaired donors. We have used microwave assisted acid digestion and transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure aluminium in twenty brains from donors without recognisable neurodegenerative disease. The aluminium content of 191 tissue samples was invariably low with over 80% of tissues having an aluminium content below 1.0 μg/g dry weight of tissue. The data for these control tissues were compared with data (measured using identical procedures) for sporadic Alzheimer’s disease, familial Alzheimer’s disease, autism spectrum disorder and multiple sclerosis. Detailed statistical analyses showed that aluminium was significantly increased in each of these disease groups compared to control tissues. We have confirmed previous conclusions that the aluminium content of brain tissue in Alzheimer’s disease, autism spectrum disorder and multiple sclerosis is significantly elevated. Further research is required to understand the role played by high levels of aluminium in the aetiology of human neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental disease.

Abstract
Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.

President-elect Donald Trump has tapped Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — a former independent presidential candidate who has a history of spreading conspiracy theories, including about vaccines — to oversee the Department of Health and Human Services.

Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump arrives to speak during an election night event at the Palm Beach Convention Center on Nov. 6, in West Palm Beach, Fla.
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"For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health," Trump said in a statement on Truth Social. "The Safety and Health of all Americans is the most important role of any Administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming Health Crisis in this Country. Mr. Kennedy will restore these Agencies to the traditions of Gold Standard Scientific Research, and beacons of Transparency, to end the Chronic Disease epidemic, and to Make America Great and Healthy Again!"

The announcement on Thursday came as no surprise. For weeks, Trump had made clear that Kennedy would have a role in his administration.

"He's going to help make America healthy again," Trump said of Kennedy during celebratory election night remarks. "He's a great guy and he really means it. He wants to do some things and we're going to let him go do it."

In an interview with NPR before the choice was announced, Kennedy said, "President Trump has given me three instructions: He wants the corruption and the conflicts out of the regulatory agencies. He wants to return the agencies to the gold standard empirically based, evidence-based science and medicine that they were once famous for. And he wants to end the chronic disease epidemic with measurable impacts on a diminishment of chronic disease within two years."

If confirmed by the Senate, the role would give Kennedy the chance to actualize a vision of public health that is often at odds with mainstream health and science.

Kennedy's baseless claims have included that Wi-Fi causes cancer and "leaky brain"; that school shootings are attributable to antidepressants; that chemicals in water can lead to children becoming transgender; and that AIDS may not be caused by HIV. He's also long said that vaccines cause autism and fail to protect people from diseases.