The True Meaning of Luke 12.33 Disciples and Selling it all

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Do Christians have to sell everything to be true Christians???
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No. 50%  50%  [ 4 ]
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cyberdora
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05 Mar 2025, 5:18 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
The arguments for the "prosperity gospel" thing seem pretty thin to me. There's a small number of rich dudes in the New Testament who, it kind of insinuates, are good Christians, but it's not mentioned whether they got to heaven or not. And as you suggest, there's a lot of stuff in the NT that suggests more strongly that wealth is a bar to the kingdom of heaven. True, the OT has a lot about good people being rewarded with huge material wealth, but I thought the Jesus and the NT superceded that. In fact I don't quite understand why the OT wasn' ditched a long time ago, or at least heavily cut down to size.


With the exception of Ezekiel and Job, the rest of the cast of the OT aren't very "godly" folk. But sticking to the rich ones, quite clearly Solomon and David were blessed by god and happily lived as some of the wealthiest men on the planet. Perhaps god changed the entry requirements for entering his kingdom closer to the birth of his son and our saviour.



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05 Mar 2025, 4:32 pm

Matthew 6:21 "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

The problem with Prosperity Doctrine is the issue of '... there your heart will also be'.

Are prosperity churches getting rich to channel the cash into social outreach programs and evangelism... or to give their pastors fancy cars and mansions, and their churches bigger entertainment systems to suck in more donators? Are they encouraging their parishioners to get rich to enjoy the good life here, or to use it to do God's will?

The million dollars is no more impressive than the Widow's Mite in God's eyes. The widow was praised for giving her all. The rich were disparaged for giving out of their wealth and not even noticing the money was gone.

People prove where their hearts are by the direction their excuses travel.

Get rich all you want. That's not the point. Be sure you know what the point is... unless you're confident you can fool God.


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05 Mar 2025, 4:58 pm

DoniiMann wrote:
People prove where their hearts are by the direction their excuses travel.

Get rich all you want. That's not the point. Be sure you know what the point is... unless you're confident you can fool God.


Very true - also we know, actions speak louder than words.