ASPartOfMe wrote:
carlos55 wrote:
The thing is he is not responsible for the DSMV and the merging of profound autism leaving people with an IQ of 30 and unable to use a toilet alone with Asperger’s and possibly those with same symptoms as Ellon Musk and an attention seeking celeb.
Any government is going to be concerned if at face value they see something that is causing disability in a large percentage of the next generation rising sharply for whatever reason.
An intelligent solution for ND advocates would be to campaign for a proper re- writing of the DSM taking account of people’s needs and the separation of the seriously disabled from those just different.
Sadly most are only interested in a puzzle logo and a 15 year old autism speaks ad instead.
So what can anyone do?
“Just different” should not be in the DSM as the DSM is based on the medical model. There was a term that covered autistic traits but not enough to be diagnosed “Broad Autism Phenotype” but that term was confusing and a term that lay people never heard of. Indo not see the DSM changing anytime soon. When Asperger’s was subsumed it was such a controversy that why would anyone want to deal with that again?
“Just Different” is a red herring. Most people here and at ASAN and other ND movement advocacy groups have not said that in years. What is being said is do not stigmatize them(RFK) and accommodate them.
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The puzzle piece and that old ad are distractions but from what I see these days. Elon Musk and the term Asperger’s is by far the biggest distraction. The revelations about Hans Asperger’s Nazi complicity were widely publicized seven years ago. The Autistic community should have figured out how to handle it by now. Not here but elsewhere it’s you say you have Aspergers, Asperger was a Nazi that coined the term(no he didn’t), Aspergers is not a diagnoses any more because Asperger was a Nazi(very few knew about Asperger’s Nazi complicity at the time), Musk is a Nazi, so if you say you are an Aspie you are a Nazi.
The ironic thing is that Musk has never weighed in on the topic. These purity test people are demanding everybody use Autism a term coined by an influential eugenicist and are often doing it on Musk’s platform(SMH).
Slightly confused ASAN and many ND advocates reject the medical model of autism preferring the social model, they openly say this.
BAP is probably an ideal label for those who`s impairments are heavily outweighed by any benefits and have no care needs. The examples of Anthony Hopkins, Ellon Musk or Bill Gates come to mind.
The problem up to now ND advocates try to maintain a contradictory view of benign difference v obvious disability in most, wanting to suppress and attack any info that reveals the more disabling and unpleasant side of autism, which RFK Jr voiced.
That is only sustainable for a short time or until a serious spotlight is put on it like now.
On a side note the left party of the UK just dropped the trans movement like a hot stone. It looks like a lot of these minority groups are falling out of favour throughout the western governments , maybe Neurodiversity is next.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crldey0z00rohttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74z04j23pwoThe elites just use people and groups for a short while until they either get bored of them or no longer serve their purpose, it would be naïve to assume its just Trump and RFK Jr acting alone unaided or not pushed by bigger forces above.
Maybe the letter agencies quietly watching for a while in silence, saw the increase and determined its now a national security threat, impacting the US ability to compete with China militarily and economically in the future and RFK was picked as the person to do the job.
Again it would be naïve to assume serious people in authority, that no one has been watching the numbers increase in recent years and assume from the media that they are not real and the fact that most are unable to work or serve in the military has not crossed their mind or the future economic cost and impact on their power and its projection.
The media and everyone else are out of the loop as always and its just white noise
I mean he seems a nice guy but has been a political non entity in the wilderness for a long time with a voice disability that would ruin most political careers, anyone else could have done MAHA without the autism.
He was obviously picked for one reason only, for autism because his views are non mainstream.
Its rather obvious now thinking about it.
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22 Apr 2025, 3:11 pm
