Autistic Thinking and Schizoid PD?

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I am 99.99999999999999999% sure my mother has SPD.

"Disease" is a societal construct, just like all other categories.

I think, zendell, that you are taking an extreme side to this argument. I personally believe that PD's are real, in a sense, and should be evaluated. There's a valid reason to their existence in manuals. I am cynical, mind you, but I am not so cynical (or is paranoid the proper word?) that I'll believe therapists take up the veil of superiority. After all, we must be cautious of those who are quick to diagnose. I wouldn't accept a one hour meeting with a Dr. who said I had "such and such" disorder. I'd question his/her credentials. That to me would be bad practice and not in any way what I might or appear to be condoning.

My problems with my being is the sudden avolition and anhedonia that I experience on occasions. What place in a society which requires people to do things does this have? Am I to live as a hermit/ascetic for the rest of my life? Although, I would enjoy that lifestyle, at least in my head.

I wouldn't mind living with such a title granted. I'd feel proud in being one of the 1% whom are recognized living with such a disorder. (wiki)

From the article "Medicine, social control and disability rights" by Cal Montgomery, from Ragged Edge # 2 and 3, 2002:

He’s the guy saying there’s no such thing as mental illness, right?

And so people drag out their friends, their relatives, and their acquaintances — and their friends’ relatives’ acquaintances — to refute him.

The people among us who attempt suicide, the people who commit incomprehensible crimes, the people who hold bizarre beliefs — if the existence of these people doesn’t prove the reality of mental illness, then what possibly could?

But this isn’t so much a refutation of Szasz as a way to make his point: when we identify certain actions and beliefs with illness, when the criterion is incomprehensibility, we use the word illness in a different way than when we use it to talk about biology.

It's not about some kind of conspiracy to call people mentally ill for having certain traits, it's about a cultural belief that says that certain traits equal a mental illness, when in the same culture at different times those same traits might have been explained away in a different manner. Basically a medical way of viewing those traits rather than a number of other ways to view them. So simply saying the traits exist doesn't say the medical model is right, any more than, if you looked up criteria for demonic possession in some religions, the existence of the traits discussed in the criteria would prove that it's demonic possession. And, for that matter, seeing a long list of possible traits written down by a doctor as "results of yeast overgrowth" doesn't actually mean that just because the traits exist, then they're a product of "yeast overgrowth".

I really don't see the point in telling someone that their personality is disordered. What are they going to do about it? Can any drug ever change someone's personality? Counseling may help but what difference does an official diagnosis make? We are all individuals and different. Counseling should help us with our own problems instead of focusing on treating a disease.

I'm not against all mental illness. Catagorizing people helps with finding effective treatments, like drugs to treat OCD and ADHD. I have a specific problem with the personality disorders because I don't think it's right to judge someone's personality.

I wonder what percentage of INTPs and INTJs are diagnosed with SPD and AS.

Schizophrenia and autism/AS are not the same.

I read a post at another AS site which stated that many Aspies are wrongly diagnosed with Borderline personality disorder initially.

Maybe that means the Aspies who don't like sex, people and are introverts have schizoid type traits and us sex enthusiasts, extroverts have Borderline type traits. lol

We seem to self annalyse too much and in our search for reassurance/acceptance. Whether your an Aspie or elsewhere on the Autism spectrum I think we tend to be the "Jack of all disorder traits", a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

Well well well, this little warm nudgelling covern sucked my eyeballs out to a degree,..it is my first submission, and I doubt I would find one ahr' more relevant to begin inter'twining strands in with my beak, establishing somewhat of a forum roost,... I've been diagnosed with both, just ahr' recently infact, perhaps the elderly monocled man were playing it safe with me?...