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30 Nov 2005, 5:45 pm

TheViking wrote:
cradle of filth IS GOTH metal


Why do black metal fans always call Cradle of Filth goth? Don't they know we don't want them either?



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01 Dec 2005, 2:28 am

why do you call COF black metal? what gave you that idea anyway? what do you define as being black metal? COF doesnt even claim to be black metal.



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05 Dec 2005, 1:35 am

Relyt wrote:
why do you call COF black metal?


Because they are. Or were, at least. While Cradle of Filth push the boundaries of the black metal genre (which isn't really saying a whole lot), many of their early songs are undeniably black metal.

Relyt wrote:
what gave you that idea anyway?


Pretentious poetic lyrics with references to mythology, check. Outrageous stage theatrics, check. Unintelligible shrieking vocals, check. They also claim musical influence from Emperor and Venom.

Relyt wrote:
what do you define as being black metal?


A few things most black metal bands seem to have in common is their ideology, black metal is consistently antichristian and many bands incorporate mythological (particularly Norse) themes into their lyrics. Black metal is also raw and minimalistic often with only one guitarist playing in standard tuning. Facepaint, leather, spikes, and illegible logos with horizontal symmetry are always to be expected.

Relyt wrote:
COF doesnt even claim to be black metal.


Oh well, I guess you got me there. Oh, wait. http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/10/bmfb4bj.jpg



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05 Dec 2005, 6:25 am

When was that. Maybe COF no longer claim to be black metal, because as you said their earlier stuff was.


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05 Dec 2005, 1:44 pm

exactly. i heard that their demo stuff was black metal, but i never heard any of that.



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12 Dec 2005, 6:57 pm

i forgot
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