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NeantHumain
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23 Nov 2004, 10:52 pm

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opposites imply that they are at two ends of a spectrum. This also implies that there is a middle ground.

NT is not opposite of AS, NT is in the middle of the spectrum.


Are you suggesting that the qualifier NeuroTypical (NT) should not apply to those on the end of the spectrum opposite autism?



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25 Nov 2004, 3:45 am

NeantHumain wrote:
UltimApe wrote:
opposites imply that they are at two ends of a spectrum. This also implies that there is a middle ground.

NT is not opposite of AS, NT is in the middle of the spectrum.


Are you suggesting that the qualifier NeuroTypical (NT) should not apply to those on the end of the spectrum opposite autism?


Latest MRI research does apparently show differences between Democrats and Republicans, and Republicans do seem to be the opposite of Aspies (and Aspies do tend to be socialist in outlook?).

If the balance among the non-aligned, have the same MRI "look" as Democrats, then the numbers add up nicely!



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25 Nov 2004, 8:14 am

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Latest MRI research does apparently show differences between Democrats and Republicans, and Republicans do seem to be the opposite of Aspies (and Aspies do tend to be socialist in outlook?).


:wink: Republican Aspie, here.



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25 Nov 2004, 10:32 am

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Latest MRI research does apparently show differences between Democrats and Republicans, and Republicans do seem to be the opposite of Aspies (and Aspies do tend to be socialist in outlook?).


Actually, I've read research that correlates level of empathy with political inclination. Conservatives tend to be less empathic (people should help themselves; the free market is perfect without any kind of social welfare system; my morals are good enough for me and good enough for everyone else too) than liberals and social democrats (the state exists to see to the well-being of its citizens; let other people have their differences as long as they don't hurt others; some people have different religious beliefs).



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26 Nov 2004, 4:42 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Actually, I've read research that correlates level of empathy with political inclination. Conservatives tend to be less empathic (people should help themselves; the free market is perfect without any kind of social welfare system; my morals are good enough for me and good enough for everyone else too) than liberals and social democrats (the state exists to see to the well-being of its citizens; let other people have their differences as long as they don't hurt others; some people have different religious beliefs).


Are you perhaps confusing "empathy" with "sympathy" Neant?



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13 Dec 2004, 10:48 am

Those would be called "star-terrans" if you believe in any such thing.



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13 Dec 2004, 12:07 pm

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Those would be called "star-terrans" if you believe in any such thing.


And if you know what's meant by that word... And by "opposite".



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13 Dec 2004, 1:06 pm

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I read about that in a Time or Newsweek article about the spectrum but thought it was called Thomas' syndrome.


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There is a disorder called William's Syndrome


Hey my name's Thomas Williams! Spooky!


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14 Dec 2004, 8:55 am

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starchild wrote:
Those would be called "star-terrans" if you believe in any such thing.


And if you know what's meant by that word... And by "opposite".


Yes I know exactly what is meant



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14 Dec 2004, 9:27 am

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Yes I know exactly what is meant


If "star-terran" is roughly equivalent to "neurotypical", it's not the opposite but it's in the middle, since NT-ness or any other ordinariness is the average; the opposite would have to be some other extreme. But then, of course, I don't know what "star-terran" would mean.

I think the remark about psychopathy being the opposite is very insightful; Williams's syndrome is only in some ways the opposite, in some ways the same.



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14 Dec 2004, 12:36 pm

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According to that link about William's syndrome, people with WS socialize much like aspies: They tend to hold monologues about their obsessions and be unaware of various social conventions. This does not seem to be the opposite of Asperger's syndrome to me.


You are right, my daughter (13) is maddeningly unaware of some of the most basic social rules that I have learned over the years. And she does tend to go on... and on... and on... when she starts talking about something that interests her. But it's not like us Aspies (speaking for myself, at least) when we get started on one of our obsessions. My daughter will go one and on and on about whatever pops into her head. THAT can be maddening!

While I may now be, out of necessity over the years, quite self-educated about social convention, I still do not LIKE to be in unfamiliar social situations, especially with strangers. My daughter loves it. No one is a stranger to her. She attempts to make friends with absolutely everyone she meets, regardless of age, social position, or anything else. It is especially difficult to get her to understand that children and adults are not on equal footing socially, and that she really shouldn't expect to be naturally welcomed as a participant into every adult conversation and social group that she encounters.


You just described my brother almost perfectly... 8O