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06 Nov 2024, 7:53 pm

the stinging ableism of the right.



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07 Nov 2024, 6:39 pm

So now the conservatives feel a mandate to "own teh libruls".

Big, fat, hairy deal.

Be careful what you wish for; wishes have ways of backfiring on the people making the wishes.  The next four years will affect YOU just as much as they affect the rest of us.



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07 Nov 2024, 6:54 pm

Fnord wrote:
So now the conservatives feel a mandate to "own teh libruls".

Big, fat, hairy deal.

Be careful what you wish for; wishes have ways of backfiring on the people making the wishes.  The next four years will affect YOU just as much as they affect the rest of us.


Don't underestimate them. They understand what it means to cut off a weak limb so that the body can remain strong.


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07 Nov 2024, 7:51 pm

U-S-A! U-S-A! S-U-X!! S-U-X!!



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07 Nov 2024, 8:18 pm

i feel guilty about the spoiled upper middle class brat. been thinking about it multiple times a day lately.

when my parents were alive i found them annoying. now that they're dead, i realize i was unreasonable and unjustified. they earned more $$$ than me, even though i am more educated than them. when they were 41, they had 10 and 6 year old kids. i'm 41 and no kids. when they were 41, they had only high school diplomas, no associates or bachelors. i'm 41 with an associates in accounting and bachelors in cognitive science.



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07 Nov 2024, 8:34 pm

ACAB


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21 Nov 2024, 3:42 pm

Trump supporters. They way troll Liberals online is like they think Liberalism is for nerds. You know what they really remind me of? They remind me of Dave from Borderlands 2.

In the town of Overlook, the people are confined to their homes and slowly dying of a disease called The Skull Shivers. Dave is an a**hole who lives in a house suspended over a cliff drop in a remote corner of the town. A trio of side jobs has you gathering Skull Shiver medicine for the town's nurse to give to everyone, grinding down smaller shields to build a shield barrier to protect the town from moon shots from the Hyperion space station, and finally testing the Shield's strength against a regular mortar shot all the while Dave makes ignorant and sexist insults at you and the nurse. In the final side job of Overlooked, you're given an opportunity to launch a mortar at Dave's house and send him to hell.


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21 Nov 2024, 7:30 pm

Most of the bible is self-aggrandizing fan fiction and yet there's people who take themselves seriously but insist that the bible be treated as a credible source of knowledge.

Brother, you're literally basing your arguments off of some dead goatfucker's BS bragging and expect that to be persuasive. f**k off, the grown-ups are speaking and you need to go back to the kiddie table with your kool-aid.


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21 Nov 2024, 8:33 pm

^ It’s such an impediment to progress. I guess we’re supposed to put humanism aside in favor of the “wisdom” of ancient people from a barbaric time? No thanks.

Humans are weird. We’re so smart - the smartest living creature we know of, yet we tend to cling to barbaric fairy tales, deluding ourselves into believing that they are moral, just, and inspired by a being we have no proof ever existed.

It’s scary what can happen when we put such nonsense above human reason and progress. Well, I guess we don’t have to imagine it.


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25 Nov 2024, 12:04 am

Dear Trump Supporters,

Your parents have shown you more love, kindness, and compassion throughout your entire life from the day you were born to this very moment than Donald Trump will show you in an entire day and when that day is over, he'll toss you aside like yesterday's news and he won't even remember your name because he is a wealthy elitist and you are the polar opposite.


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25 Nov 2024, 11:28 am

The infrastructure in the UK is an absolute joke when it comes to public transport

I am literally laughing out loud to myself


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25 Nov 2024, 10:41 pm

i feel guilty about the spoiled upper middle class brat.

now that i know how hard it is to get a f*****g passport, i feel guilty that i wasn't appreciative toward old man and old woman more, when they were still alive, s**t.

i have nothing positive to contribute to society. my carbon footprint does not get offset by anything more substantial.

i find almost everyone annoying lil dipshits and they talk too much and too loud and too enthusiastically. too f*****g judgmental s**t.



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26 Nov 2024, 4:30 am

People who see no difference between wants and needs, rights and privileges, or love and sex.



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26 Nov 2024, 6:53 am

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^ It’s such an impediment to progress. I guess we’re supposed to put humanism aside in favor of the “wisdom” of ancient people from a barbaric time? No thanks.

Humans are weird. We’re so smart - the smartest living creature we know of, yet we tend to cling to barbaric fairy tales, deluding ourselves into believing that they are moral, just, and inspired by a being we have no proof ever existed.

It’s scary what can happen when we put such nonsense above human reason and progress. Well, I guess we don’t have to imagine it.


There are times when I wish, with my whole heart, that I could believe in a god, with a plan and an interest in the events here on earth. Doesn't even have to be the cuddly, loving, beardy fellow forgiving my every misstep from his cloud throne in heaven. It's the idea that there is something bigger than us, that this isn't just some pointless random s**t that's happening. That there is a correct way to behave and a rightness and wrongness inherent in all things. That would be such a comfort. It's no mystery to me why people believe it.

I just can't. But I wish it. And the fact that I wish it is enough to make me suspicious about it. Because if I wish it, others probably do too. And humans tend to create what they wish for.

I'm equally scared by what happens when a society outgrows it's religion. When we have no shared moral guidance. Humanism is vulnerable to interpretation by...humans. Hence the need for an external moral arbiter. Real or imagined.

I don't think humans do terrible things because of religion, i think it's just one of many reasons that humans will use to justify acting terribly.

As for an impediment to progress, I'm not sure. And I don't know if it could ever be quantified. But progress happens from a solid footing. How are you supposed to move forwards if you can't agree where you are? You can't fire a cannon from a canoe. Shared values, agreed morals, a received set of inarguables - this seems to me like a necessary part of societal progress. Maybe the deterioration of that stability is why we find ourselves adrift in our time? Or maybe all times feel like that when you're in them.

Just thinking aloud. I have no faith, but I'm open to the idea that the mass rejection of faith is going to put society into a tailspin, maybe we're there already.


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26 Nov 2024, 8:42 am

DuckHairback wrote:
I'm equally scared by what happens when a society outgrows it's religion. When we have no shared moral guidance. Humanism is vulnerable to interpretation by...humans. Hence the need for an external moral arbiter. Real or imagined.

I don't think humans do terrible things because of religion, i think it's just one of many reasons that humans will use to justify acting terribly.

As for an impediment to progress, I'm not sure. And I don't know if it could ever be quantified. But progress happens from a solid footing. How are you supposed to move forwards if you can't agree where you are? You can't fire a cannon from a canoe. Shared values, agreed morals, a received set of inarguables - this seems to me like a necessary part of societal progress. Maybe the deterioration of that stability is why we find ourselves adrift in our time? Or maybe all times feel like that when you're in them.

Just thinking aloud. I have no faith, but I'm open to the idea that the mass rejection of faith is going to put society into a tailspin, maybe we're there already.
Holy books are also vulnerable to interpretation by humans. That’s always been an issue among believers. Most people are more moral than the books and the god they worship which is good because, otherwise, they’d be doing a lot more messed up stuff. I don’t think the Bible is a solid basis for morality. People often disagree on what should or shouldn’t be followed and to what extent. That’s not to say that there isn’t good stuff in it, but much of it is stuff that I think would exist regardless. The Golden Rule, for instance, is nice but similar precepts existed before Jesus purportedly said it. Societies that have been progressively moving away from Bible-based religion don’t appear to be experiencing a moral decline.

Humans do terrible things all the time on account of religion - things they would never dream of doing if they didn’t believe their god wanted them to. They shun loved ones - even their own family members who they love dearly and miss terribly, they suicide bomb, they denounce members of the LGBTQ+ community which sometimes leads to suicide, they forego science in favor of the creation story which limits kids’ futures, they exact inhumane punishments, etc. I don’t think most of these issues and many others would currently exist, at least to the same degree, without religion. It also plays some role to a greater or lesser extent in world conflicts. Sometimes it’s hard to unravel justification and cause, especially on an individual basis.

I think that the Bible and Quran are so problematic that forgoing them in favor of humanism would be an improvement even though that wouldn’t be without its own set of challenges and difficulties. We would still have laws and shared values that evolved over the centuries. Even cultures that have very different beliefs seem to have similar ideas about morality when it comes to the big stuff. Perhaps it’s beneficial from an evolutionary perspective to be decent. Survival has often depended on community.


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