Might autistic women not be the best match for autistic men?

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03 Jun 2024, 7:44 pm

I don't even know anyone dx with autism in "real life" except for family members or people I met through WP. I can see where there would be potential advantages of having them understand more than an NT but again based on my family members I don't know if that's necessarily true. My kids are both autistic for example and even though they might understand that they each have sensory needs, it doesn't mean they're willing to accommodate them. My son likes noise to fall asleep, like a TV or an oscillating fan. My daughter whose room is right behind his wall needs silence to sleep. The TV drives her insane and the fan clicks against the wall. She has meltdowns about it because she can't be flexible due to her neurotype, just like he can't be flexible about sleeping in silence. Neither is right or wrong, but they're both incredibly set in their ways.

My partner is NT but at least he understands on an intellectual level because he's a counsellor and he's worked with autistic clients. He's also learned about my specific needs through trial and error (mostly error in the start lol), meaning that he was willing and able to adjust and accommodate by being flexible, in ways my kids wouldn't be able to. Understanding only goes so far. Putting into practice and actually accommodating differences is a whole other kettle of fish.

I do like autistic men though, at least the ones I know from WP. This isn't a critique of autistic men. It's just me saying that I don't know how flexible I could be for someone else's eccentricities especially if it meant adapting my own.


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03 Jun 2024, 7:53 pm

Well maybe theres something to this thread to OP made .. cause after having known a few men in my life .
I think I would hate breaking in a new Partner..etc ..
Not sure I would be the best pick anymore, ... :( .....but must admit you never know who might turn up .
That might be alittle understanding ....and even a tiny bit accomodating


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03 Jun 2024, 8:42 pm

I'm the only one in my extended family who is autistic except on my mom's side the son of one of my cousins is. However all my biological realtives on that side of my family are very NT except for him & he's the only other introvert on my mom's side. Half of those relatives are either teachers or nurses. My dad's side is a bit weirder but they're pretty social at times except for one of my cousins. She's an introvert but seems to be a normal one.

Part of the reason I wanted a relationshop is because I never felt like I fit in with my family & I figured that a partner who also had issues might be more compatible & understanding. My first girlfriend was the first person I ever felt close to partly because we had some issues in common. I also tend to be more attracted to women who are not normal. I really like being the normal one in a relationship. I can deal with someone odd a lot better than feeling odd. With my parents(especially mom) I was in the habit of feeling a need to explain & justify myself & actions as wrll as being secretive about things to avoid having fights/arguments. I'm a lot more stable & relaxed when I'm the normal one. Maybe I like offering the support & acceptance I wish I had gotten.

That said, I tried not to limit myself with potential partners but I don't think normal NTs had much use for me.


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03 Jun 2024, 9:45 pm

I don't have a strong preference for autistics or NTs because I think it depends on the person. However, I will say that I'm interested in someone who IS autistic.



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03 Jun 2024, 10:33 pm

I know some pretty great autistic men too.


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04 Jun 2024, 12:30 am

If my brother was to start dating now he would probably end up with an Autistic woman instead of a neuro-typical



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04 Jun 2024, 12:51 am

Mikurotoro92 wrote:
David is not Autistic but he does have a disability

He has either Muscular Dystrophy or Multiple Sclerosis



Those are two very different conditions, but they're both very serious.
I know people who have died from MS.

Will he ever be able to live independently out of the group home if you hope to get married?
Does he see his family much, or have their support?


https://www.healthline.com/health/ms-vs-md


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04 Jun 2024, 1:23 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Mikurotoro92 wrote:
David is not Autistic but he does have a disability

He has either Muscular Dystrophy or Multiple Sclerosis



Those are two very different conditions, but they're both very serious.
I know people who have died from MS.

Will he ever be able to live independently out of the group home if you hope to get married?
Does he see his family much, or have their support?


https://www.healthline.com/health/ms-vs-md


I think he would eventually be able to live away from the group home if we got married

He would have me and his sister

But my therapist told me if I ever have second thoughts about David to REALLY consider and think about if he is truly the man I wish to marry

Right now I just want to take it slow and see where our relationship can go from here despite wanting to immediately jump into a wedding and married/family life!



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04 Jun 2024, 2:04 am

That makes sense. Marriage is a huge step and it's hard to know unless you've been with someone a very long time, improving communication, goal setting, and dealing with conflict. It also helps to go out with more than one person before getting married because otherwise people have nothing to compare them to.

David has a degenerative disease and you aren't even sure which disease it is, so I imagine that means you aren't communicating very much about each other's needs or about the future. I think that would make it hard for you to commit to being his full-time caregiver but of course there's always time to learn and grow.


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04 Jun 2024, 6:29 am

FleaOfTheChill wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
I tend to think neurodiverse people in general are a good match for each other.

ND + ND > ND + NT in terms of relationships, I would say, in general.

It makes sense to be in a relationship with someone who is understanding of neurodiversity without having to explain it all or to constantly remind people of why you are like you are as an ND person.


I'm not great with words right now. Still, I'm trying :P

I am more and more of that mindset. Never had a serious relationship with anyone dx'd with autism. Had an autistic fwb, and was nice to have someone get it. Not that nt's can't get it. They can listen, learn, try to understand. Of course. Still, would be nice to have someone get it because they can relate, they live it, whatever. Seems that shared life experience, even if not exactly the same, would mean so much more. Thinking autistic folk are where it's at for me. Is what I'd prefer. Been down the road too many times before where people think I'm lying, or they forget, maybe think they can change me magically. I dunno. Don't care to do that again. Would prefer someone more on my wavelength.


Yeah, all of what you have said is what I had in mind generally. Thank you for relating. :)



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04 Jun 2024, 6:32 am

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I also tend to be more attracted to women who are not normal. I really like being the normal one in a relationship. I can deal with someone odd a lot better than feeling odd.


I am the same as you in regards to the text I highlighted in your post, Nick.



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04 Jun 2024, 8:15 am

^ To make it clearer, please edit quoted posts to provide only the part you're responding to.


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04 Jun 2024, 8:31 am

Cornflake wrote:
^ To make it clearer, please edit quoted posts to provide only the part you're responding to.


Done. I would have thought the large text was clear enough, though.



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04 Jun 2024, 9:04 am

^ Thanks. :thumright:
The clarity can depend on the display - but none of it is as clear as quoting the specific text, and that helps avoid screen clutter too.


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04 Jun 2024, 9:50 am

yeah i recently joined an asexual community group on facebook, and from reading certain comments, asexual people are not unheard of, as in, these people still instinctively innately desire a relationship, companionship with another human being, even if sex is not involved.



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04 Jun 2024, 10:30 am

Cornflake wrote:
^ Thanks. :thumright:
The clarity can depend on the display - but none of it is as clear as quoting the specific text, and that helps avoid screen clutter too.


I suppose it does reduce screen clutter, yes. I find that quoting a whole post makes it easier for a person to gather the context of the quoted text (when highlighting a line as part of a broader text), but I guess people can just scroll back and read in any case.

I shall try to follow your guidelines as best as I can remember.