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18 Mar 2025, 4:39 pm

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He was not doing a Nazi salute, he was doing a "my heart goes out to you" kind of thing, which he clearly prefaced.


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Of course, everyone knows the my heart goes out to you salute which 100% isn't just the worst excuse to pretend what these guys are doing isn't a Nazi salute. Only a fool would insist these guys are doing "nazi salutes" (whatever the f**k that is).

The woke media is just trying to cancel all of our great heroes who send their hearts out to us.

The thing I don't like is that some people are very sensitive about things in speech and media that is even barely remotely associated with the "old" culture.


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18 Mar 2025, 4:41 pm

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He was not doing a Nazi salute, he was doing a "my heart goes out to you" kind of thing, which he clearly prefaced.

The standards on this are so flimsy that anyone hailing a taxi cab could also be interpreted as doing a Nazi salute, or just anyone putting their arm in the air for any reason... that's how desperate the big dishonest woke system is to try and get what they want just using the laziest and cheapest possible Nazi smears and thinking this will work.


Even if this is the case, actual Nazis with power haven't even been a thing for nearly 100 years in living memory. I'm not surprised being mad about Elon Musk and trying to link him with cheap smears to Nazis for an awkward salute has little resonance, as if you are a young man born 4 or 5 generations after 1945 and are completely struggling with no prospects in this woke controlled society, then what the heck do you care when they constantly try and frighten you about "Nazis" ? This is now totally irrelevant for most people that are very far removed from living this.


Again, You HAVEN'T read the s**t he's been posting on his own twitter account.




What has he been posting ? If there's any specific examples we can discuss these and decide if they truly rise to the bar of being "Nazi" or not.

Pretty much though anything a conservative says that even slightly displeases a liberal, these days, is enough to get qualified as a card-carrying member of the National Socialist party of Allemange. It's not like the bar is very high, before all this stuff starts getting thrown around.

Honestly, I think all this stuff like getting mad over Elon's awkward salute is quite an insult to what people actually went through under actual Nazis in the 40s and such, with this kind of lazy comparison and liberals getting upset about this, for power in modern times. If any "Nazi" starts doing anything that's actual illegal, I'm all for actually going after them and all this, but this is stupid and utterly lazy politics, at present.


I would say though, with Elon being the wealthiest man in the world, his party just winning the popular vote, he has the ear of the President, etc.... He's going to get quite a bit of what he wants and his priorities, regardless of the wishes of global liberals. If he's posting conservative things on various topics and has these kinds of aims, like it or not for anyone who doesn't like all this, it may well be "tough titty".


Oh my f***ing God. Do you really think I expect you to take my word for it? You can look up screenshots of the things he has said from antisemitic conspiracy theories to racial slurs to aggressive uses of the word ret*d.

The man is NOT well.


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18 Mar 2025, 4:54 pm

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The thing I don't like is that some people are very sensitive about things in speech and media that is even barely remotely associated with the "old" culture.


Such as? :scratch:


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18 Mar 2025, 7:02 pm

As perplexity ai is telling there is no clinical diagnosis that Elon Musk is Asperger. I have found many lies in Musks sentences. To fire thousands of people just by an email shows that Musk is terrible unfair. He likes it very much to be in public. I don't know asperger's who really like to be in public. And he wasn't the founder of TESLA. This were two german engineers. The creator of model s was fisker. All TESLA models which performed well on the marked were variations of model s. The first desaster model was the cyber truck, a vision of Elon Musk. It would be really nice to test him in math, physics and knowledge of the blue planet. Is a individual intelligent, which is not knowing that the climate catastrophe is caused by humans and the way Musk is living? His kids will live in a terrible world. I was 16 when I read the book of the CLUB OF ROME about the future of earth. After finishing the book and after deep own investigation I decided to never have kids. I am engineer and I never would place somebody in an aircraft, when there is a 20% possibility that the plane will crash. But for the climate crash the possibility is more than 70%. Growth combined with the energy ideas of Trump and Musk will kill everything even faster. Is this intelligence?
It would be fine to get asperger answers on my post - only facts please - thanks.



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18 Mar 2025, 7:04 pm

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Maybe none of us give a s**t... We all hate the Woke "leaders," more than we hate Putin.


Yes, and you've made your hatred of reasonable people into your entire personalities but lack the capability for self-reflection that would eventually lead to correcting yourselves and your behaviours.

No shame. No common sense. No interest in facts or expertise. It's nothing more than self-destructive cult that's almost entirely fuelled by cruelty towards others.

But, you do admit something important. The MAGA cult doesn't care that Elon did a Nazi salute, but they're still going to lie and pretend he didn't because they'd rather align themselves with seek kylers than have to take a morally responsible stand that "wokes" (aka, people who aren't part of the cult) agree with.

Like, it wouldn't be that hard to say oh, that's not a good look but we still support Elon for reasons but instead you guys insist on looking ridiculous by denying reality no matter how undeniable that reality might be.

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To be fair I think Musk was just hailing a taxi before he jumped in and said: "Take me to that campaign event for a far-right German political party!"


:lol: :lol:





No one cares about "Nazis", and what i will define is at-least this angle of trying to take Elon down with Nazi association, as National Socialism is now so distant in the past as an actual power that it now has no relevance to regular people that this stuff is trying to be sold to. It has as much relevance going and trying to scare people about card-carrying Nazis as it has going and trying to scare people about Zombies.

I don't see it that someone born in the 1990s and is now in their 30s in the 2020s, sees this as any kind of viable threat that there's some kind of Nazi army that's going to come and start marching and stomping around. Back in the 1950s and 1960s, on the other hand, I could see how the Establishment could and did make people crazy over every little thing they could relate to this, as the wounds were this fresh.


The problem I've had with the main thrust of the Anti-Trump narrative from the small-l liberal system and them calling all MAGA a cult and all of this, is that they themselves are not just "neutral" politicians running sensible sane politics from the centre, and they've been running their own crazy woke agendas and stuff like mass-immigration and Drag Queen Story Hour; but then they lose their s**t when normal people dare unite and start voting against them, and they start shrieking "what's going on," like they've just been sitting there as these innocent little lambs and it's just been Trump as some kind of bully that's arrived on the scene trying to get one up on them.



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18 Mar 2025, 8:31 pm

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normal people.


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18 Mar 2025, 8:40 pm

dolphin666sueden wrote:
As perplexity ai is telling there is no clinical diagnosis that Elon Musk is Asperger. I have found many lies in Musks sentences. To fire thousands of people just by an email shows that Musk is terrible unfair. He likes it very much to be in public. I don't know asperger's who really like to be in public. And he wasn't the founder of TESLA. This were two german engineers. The creator of model s was fisker. All TESLA models which performed well on the marked were variations of model s. The first desaster model was the cyber truck, a vision of Elon Musk. It would be really nice to test him in math, physics and knowledge of the blue planet. Is a individual intelligent, which is not knowing that the climate catastrophe is caused by humans and the way Musk is living? His kids will live in a terrible world. I was 16 when I read the book of the CLUB OF ROME about the future of earth. After finishing the book and after deep own investigation I decided to never have kids. I am engineer and I never would place somebody in an aircraft, when there is a 20% possibility that the plane will crash. But for the climate crash the possibility is more than 70%. Growth combined with the energy ideas of Trump and Musk will kill everything even faster. Is this intelligence?
It would be fine to get asperger answers on my post - only facts please - thanks.


I suspect Musk is self diagnosed.
It's funny listening to his apologists who defend every Nazi salute, or every hateful post on X, and try to explain it away by saying: "Well, he's on the spectrum, so he has a special brain!"


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18 Mar 2025, 9:11 pm

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As perplexity ai is telling there is no clinical diagnosis that Elon Musk is Asperger. I have found many lies in Musks sentences. To fire thousands of people just by an email shows that Musk is terrible unfair. He likes it very much to be in public. I don't know asperger's who really like to be in public. And he wasn't the founder of TESLA. This were two german engineers. The creator of model s was fisker. All TESLA models which performed well on the marked were variations of model s. The first desaster model was the cyber truck, a vision of Elon Musk. It would be really nice to test him in math, physics and knowledge of the blue planet. Is a individual intelligent, which is not knowing that the climate catastrophe is caused by humans and the way Musk is living? His kids will live in a terrible world. I was 16 when I read the book of the CLUB OF ROME about the future of earth. After finishing the book and after deep own investigation I decided to never have kids. I am engineer and I never would place somebody in an aircraft, when there is a 20% possibility that the plane will crash. But for the climate crash the possibility is more than 70%. Growth combined with the energy ideas of Trump and Musk will kill everything even faster. Is this intelligence?
It would be fine to get asperger answers on my post - only facts please - thanks.


I suspect Musk is self diagnosed.
It's funny listening to his apologists who defend every Nazi salute, or every hateful post on X, and try to explain it away by saying: "Well, he's on the spectrum, so he has a special brain!"

I'm not sure it's even that thought out. It's something he says because he thinks it will get him off the hook. He's a billionaire, he could get the diagnosis if he wanted it.



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18 Mar 2025, 9:12 pm

But, if he's formally evaluated he might face the issue of being not diagnosed with autism. For a thin-skinned narcissist like Elon, it seems he'd rather trust his own expert opinion rather than risk being professionally evaluated but not receiving a formal diagnosis.

Unrelated, but:


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18 Mar 2025, 10:40 pm

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dolphin666sueden wrote:
As perplexity ai is telling there is no clinical diagnosis that Elon Musk is Asperger. I have found many lies in Musks sentences. To fire thousands of people just by an email shows that Musk is terrible unfair. He likes it very much to be in public. I don't know asperger's who really like to be in public. And he wasn't the founder of TESLA. This were two german engineers. The creator of model s was fisker. All TESLA models which performed well on the marked were variations of model s. The first desaster model was the cyber truck, a vision of Elon Musk. It would be really nice to test him in math, physics and knowledge of the blue planet. Is a individual intelligent, which is not knowing that the climate catastrophe is caused by humans and the way Musk is living? His kids will live in a terrible world. I was 16 when I read the book of the CLUB OF ROME about the future of earth. After finishing the book and after deep own investigation I decided to never have kids. I am engineer and I never would place somebody in an aircraft, when there is a 20% possibility that the plane will crash. But for the climate crash the possibility is more than 70%. Growth combined with the energy ideas of Trump and Musk will kill everything even faster. Is this intelligence?
It would be fine to get asperger answers on my post - only facts please - thanks.


I suspect Musk is self diagnosed.
It's funny listening to his apologists who defend every Nazi salute, or every hateful post on X, and try to explain it away by saying: "Well, he's on the spectrum, so he has a special brain!"

I'm not sure it's even that thought out. It's something he says because he thinks it will get him off the hook. He's a billionaire, he could get the diagnosis if he wanted it.


I'm sure you're right.


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19 Mar 2025, 10:49 am

funeralxempire wrote:
But, if he's formally evaluated he might face the issue of being not diagnosed with autism. For a thin-skinned narcissist like Elon, it seems he'd rather trust his own expert opinion rather than risk being professionally evaluated but not receiving a formal diagnosis.

Unrelated, but:

Possibly, but given how he seems to operate, he'd probably doctor shop around for one that would say what he wanted to hear.

IMHO, he's more likely some combination of pscyhopath, narcissist and possibly some sort of low-grade schizophrenic. Not that I'm diagnosing anybody here.
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I suspect Musk is self diagnosed.
It's funny listening to his apologists who defend every Nazi salute, or every hateful post on X, and try to explain it away by saying: "Well, he's on the spectrum, so he has a special brain!"

I'm not sure it's even that thought out. It's something he says because he thinks it will get him off the hook. He's a billionaire, he could get the diagnosis if he wanted it.


I'm sure you're right.

Even in the best of cases, self-diagnoses are less than ideal, but none of the normal reasons for self-diagnosing seem to apply here. It's not like he couldn't hire a qualified professional to follow him around for a few weeks and watch to see what he's actually doing.



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19 Mar 2025, 3:06 pm

Serbia's social conservatives and nationalists absolutely put the Democrats little Saul Alinsky anti-Elon Musk "town Halls" to shame ! ! What's going on in the USA is completely fake and astroturfed and not any kind of "popular movement" against MAGA...... hahaha






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19 Mar 2025, 5:28 pm

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Serbia's social conservatives and nationalists absolutely put the Democrats little Saul Alinsky anti-Elon Musk "town Halls" to shame ! ! What's going on in the USA is completely fake and astroturfed and not any kind of "popular movement" against MAGA...... hahaha






Trump starts cutting social security, medicaid, medicare, and Obamacare, and you'll have demonstrations to put your precious Serbian nationalists to shame.
You do know this is the exact same political philosophy in Serbia that had led to the genocidal rampage that involved thousands of deaths, don't you? Why do you gloatingly use this as an example?
You never cared to answer my question. I'll ask it again: are you even on the spectrum?


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19 Mar 2025, 6:53 pm

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The thing I don't like is that some people are very sensitive about things in speech and media that is even barely remotely associated with the "old" culture.


Such as? :scratch:


[*] That everything remotely perceived as racist, sexist, whatever have you, is quite censored today, and this form of pathological altruism is squelching things so much that freedom of speech and expression is receding.
[*] Do you believe that something somebody has merely said in the past or even recently should be grounds to no longer have jobs or any means of livelihood? I strongly disagree, that goes with the point above. It's a pretty low bar for the kind of consequence.

My point is that anything even slightly nationalist/traditionalist or even just not "progressive" enough is compared to Nazis or fascism.


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SailorsGuy12 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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The thing I don't like is that some people are very sensitive about things in speech and media that is even barely remotely associated with the "old" culture.


Such as? :scratch:


[*] That everything remotely perceived as racist, sexist, whatever have you, is quite censored today, and this form of pathological altruism is squelching things so much that freedom of speech and expression is receding.
[*] Do you believe that something somebody has merely said in the past or even recently should be grounds to no longer have jobs or any means of livelihood? I strongly disagree, that goes with the point above. It's a pretty low bar for the kind of consequence.

My point is that anything even slightly nationalist/traditionalist or even just not "progressive" enough is compared to Nazis or fascism.


I'm not sure any of that is actually happening, but you're welcome to believe it regardless of a lack of evidence.


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