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03 Nov 2012, 12:41 pm

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There actually is a very large community of straight men who have sex with men but don't identify as bi or gay. They just call it MSM (men who have sex with men). I don't see why there can't be WSW as well. Sometimes sex is just sex.


Yes, there are indeed men who sleep with men and claim they aren't gay. Since homosexuality is literally sexual attraction to the same gender, they are gay - they just have a large dose of homophobia along with it.

Claiming you aren't something just because you don't want to be doesn't magically change the facts. There are lots of people in prison that claim to be innocent - should we just let them go?


First, it is plausible for someone to feel the pleasurable sensations of sex without being attracted to his partner. So these people would be having sex just for the sake of it, as he mentioned.

Second, on the labeling thing, do you claim to know someone better than he knows himself? And even if that was true, which I doubt, is it your call to say they are wrong in the way they see themselves?


I think these labels should be exclusively self-applied


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03 Nov 2012, 2:13 pm

Speaking of criminals, lots of straight people have same-sex relations in prisons. Not just rape either there's consensual stuff going on as well. Doesn't make them gay either.



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03 Nov 2012, 3:54 pm

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Ok I can understand a women who says she attractive to other women but has no desire to act out on it based on
religious ground, calling her self straight. However these women Im talkin about are not ''religious'' and still act out on the behavior.
I know in some culture only men who are the receving partner are consider ''gay'' and men who are the insertive partner are not consider gay.


I couldn't make sense of what you said, did you mean women who are not religions, and still don't act out on their attraction towards other women?

Hum... I'd need the opinion of an heterosexual woman. She probably would know better than either of us. A wild guess is that seeing or being aroused by someone is different from actually wanting to have sex with them. I don't know.

And I've heard that's the case in prison, but that's more about asserting dominance and very limited options, so it wouldn't really be related to this topic.


Ok here it is
women A find women sexualy attractive but because she's a christians she chooses not live a bisexual lifestyle and calls her self straight

women b finds women sexualy attractive and is not a christian or does not thinks that homosexuality is wrong but still calls herself ''straight''

women c only has sex with women only in prison outside of prison she only has sex with men.

women d has sex with a woman only once and didn't care much for it and since only going after men. So she can call herself straight

Women E has sex with women and enjoys it but calls herself straight and gets very upset when people call her bi or lesbian
(which are the women Im talking about)

women f: only has sex with women for money (porn,prosititue)

women G: only has sex with women as long as there is a man involved but if no man around. She doesn't have sex with a woman

I do know some women who have sex with women but don't call self bi or lesbian because they don't have any romantic feeling towards women. to them as long as they don't really ''love'' the women they sleep with then they are not really bi or lesbian.

similiar to men who thinks that if they recieve oral and not give oral then they are not gay or bi.



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03 Nov 2012, 5:26 pm

If this is at all related to you arguing that I'm either bisexual or a lesbian, I never claimed to he straight. I'm just sexually attracted to other human adults, at least some of them.

My first girlfriend identified as female but had male genitalia, and breasts etc. I have been with people who were androgynous and chose not to identify as any gender.

Things aren't as simple as you want them to be. Dumb it down all you wish, it doesn't make it any less complex.

And as a straight guy, why are you arguing about this? You're not going t convince anyone that you know them better than they know themselves.


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03 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

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If this is at all related to you arguing that I'm either bisexual or a lesbian, I never claimed to he straight. I'm just sexually attracted to other human adults, at least some of them.

My first girlfriend identified as female but had male genitalia, and breasts etc. I have been with people who were androgynous and chose not to identify as any gender.

Things aren't as simple as you want them to be. Dumb it down all you wish, it doesn't make it any less complex.

And as a straight guy, why are you arguing about this? You're not going t convince anyone that you know them better than they know themselves.

Then why not just say you are bi then? You can't go around saying you like to date women and not expect people to ask if you are bi or lesbian. You have the freedom to Id yourself whatever you want, But it's not truthful.
If I say ''I like only women and want to only have sex with women but Im not straight'' that wouldn't make no sense.
Or if I say ''I like romney, republicans ideas. and vote only for republicans but Im not a republican'' That makes no sense.
Or If I say ''I like stamps, have a stamp magazine, collect stamps but not a stamp collector'' makes no sense.
Or if I say '' I believe in jesus christ, go to church, believe in the bible but Im not a christian'' make no sense.



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03 Nov 2012, 9:52 pm

So you did create this whole thread as an attempt to invalidate the way I choose to identify myself in regards to my sex life??

With all of your struggles in the dating world, maybe you should focus on yourself. I don't see why it's of such great importance to you to tell other people what is or what isn't honest in terms of their sexuality.

Why not say I'm bi? Because I'm not, and because I don't have to make my vocabulary fit into your incredibly limited understanding of human sexuality.


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03 Nov 2012, 10:23 pm

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So you did create this whole thread as an attempt to invalidate the way I choose to identify myself in regards to my sex life??

With all of your struggles in the dating world, maybe you should focus on yourself. I don't see why it's of such great importance to you to tell other people what is or what isn't honest in terms of their sexuality.

Why not say I'm bi? Because I'm not, and because I don't have to make my vocabulary fit into your incredibly limited understanding of human sexuality.


I know alot about human sexuality.



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03 Nov 2012, 10:28 pm

It doesn't look like it :?


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03 Nov 2012, 10:35 pm

meems wrote:
So you did create this whole thread as an attempt to invalidate the way I choose to identify myself in regards to my sex life??

With all of your struggles in the dating world, maybe you should focus on yourself. I don't see why it's of such great importance to you to tell other people what is or what isn't honest in terms of their sexuality.

Why not say I'm bi? Because I'm not, and because I don't have to make my vocabulary fit into your incredibly limited understanding of human sexuality.

You like both gender,right. That what Im getting at. you are bisexual. Look my not going my waste time arguing with a in denial bisexual like yourself who is also very rude to me and I never insult you ever call you names before you said something. Yes, I do have trouble in dating but at least I don't deny it like you do about being bi. Right when I saw your message on the op, I just knew you were one of these bi in denial women. and last I wish the best of luck to you.
I will be done with this thread as long as you don't insult me. If you insults me I will be back. Please be nice.



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03 Nov 2012, 11:21 pm

I don't like any gender, I'm not attracted to gender. A person's gender(which might be totally different than their sex) isn't a factor in whether or not they are attractive in my eyes.

You're not well-informed about this topic, and you're unwilling to consider any new information. I don't see how this conversation benefits anyone.


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03 Nov 2012, 11:35 pm

Really. Ok. I know about pansexuals,bisexuals,homosexual,asexuals,heterosexual. transgender.
I know about tops and bottoms. I know about butch and femme.
I know alot about human sexuality. I know about other funky terms like mostly straight,bi curious,
flexisexuals. trysexuals. I know alot about the glbt culture.
yes, Im am very informed on human sexuality.
it just funny how liberals are trying to make sexuality so complicated. I don't like the religious right but at least they keep it simple.



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03 Nov 2012, 11:50 pm

You obviously know nothing of my sexuality or my politics.


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04 Nov 2012, 12:00 am

meems wrote:
If this is at all related to you arguing that I'm either bisexual or a lesbian, I never claimed to he straight. I'm just sexually attracted to other human adults, at least some of them.

My first girlfriend identified as female but had male genitalia, and breasts etc. I have been with people who were androgynous and chose not to identify as any gender.

Things aren't as simple as you want them to be. Dumb it down all you wish, it doesn't make it any less complex.

And as a straight guy, why are you arguing about this? You're not going t convince anyone that you know them better than they know themselves.


no I could be consider ''bi'' because I do have an attraction towards some men. However I have choosen not to live a bisexual lifestyle and only live a heterosexual lifestyle. I like women way more than men, but different between me and you is I don't go around telling people about my sexuality. I am a christian and god wants everyone to live a heterosexual lifestyle.
one man,one woman is best for society.



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04 Nov 2012, 12:09 am

Aren't you banned under at least one other username?


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04 Nov 2012, 12:14 am

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Aren't you banned under at least one other username?

No I've always been ''billiscool'' i think you are thinking of someone else.



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04 Nov 2012, 3:48 am

billiscool wrote:
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If this is at all related to you arguing that I'm either bisexual or a lesbian, I never claimed to he straight. I'm just sexually attracted to other human adults, at least some of them.

My first girlfriend identified as female but had male genitalia, and breasts etc. I have been with people who were androgynous and chose not to identify as any gender.

Things aren't as simple as you want them to be. Dumb it down all you wish, it doesn't make it any less complex.

And as a straight guy, why are you arguing about this? You're not going t convince anyone that you know them better than they know themselves.


no I could be consider ''bi'' because I do have an attraction towards some men. However I have choosen not to live a bisexual lifestyle and only live a heterosexual lifestyle. I like women way more than men, but different between me and you is I don't go around telling people about my sexuality. I am a christian and god wants everyone to live a heterosexual lifestyle.
one man,one woman is best for society.


Super obvious trolling!?


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