extreme metal appreciation thread

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Those are metal bands but not all of them are extreme metal bands. I just figured that because the title of the thread was extreme metal that it implied that this was a thread for a certain group of metal. Some people think their metal is extreme even if it isn't comparatively, I know people who think System of a Down is extreme. Grindcore would belong in the group, so would non melodic death metal, black metal, exceptional thrash metal, and speed metal.

Maybe there's an official definition of extreme metal where doom metal fits in but Skepticism puts me to sleep. The only extreme things about them to me is that they're extremely long winded and extremely boring.

superunknown, you started the thread. Maybe you could clarify what you meant by extreme metal.

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People who might classify System of a Down as extreme metal wont post here will they? I mean most Aspies know what they're talking about when it comes to their interests, and the ones that don't probably wont listen to reason or even bother reading the first post.

Sorry about posting all those bands though, I completely forgot it was specifically about extreme metal bands.

dude grind isnt metal its influenced by dm but largely its still distinctly punk

extreme means different to popular music, i think playing at the speed skepticism dose alone puts them far enough from the mainstream. but im afraid i cant brutally pwn you on this one cus i dont listen to much doom

Since extreme means at the farthest end of possibility, I think Crowbar counts as extreme. See, you could have extreme hot or extreme cold weather, and it's still extreme weather. So an extremely slow band and an extremely fast band both qualify as extreme bands, IMO.

I think mouapp said it best, it's a bunch of bands that don't mesh well with Popular Culture, that used to be Thrash Metal and other kinds of Metal, and look at them now! They're a part of it.

rock on!

whoa buddy grind not metal?
listen to agoraphobic nosebleed, pig destroyer and brutal truth and tell me grind isnt metal
true there is a punk influence but grind is definitly more metal than punk

gotta give it up to the fathers of metal even though born again is a pretty sh***y album in comparison to the rest of their albums

before i heard cryptopsy i was listning to BS like korn
a friend gave me none so vile and pretty immediatley i sold all my korn and static x cd's and bought tomb of the mutilated, prowler in the yard (pig destroyer) and legion by deicide

as for lord worm his vocal style is so outside the box its amazing
and flo is the blastbeat KING he makes it look so easy like he could do it in his sleep or something

Didn't Cryptopsy also do a live album titled None so Live?

When I was a kid all I had to listen to was the radio, because of this there was a period in there where I actually thought Slipknot was heavy. Somewhere along the line a few years ago I heard a song by Cannibal Corpse and then I knew what heavy really was. If you didn't notice, my sig is taken from the Cannibal Corpse song "Stripped Raped and Strangled"

Wikipedia included doom in their definition of extreme metal. Although doom isn't my cup of tea I guess it belongs in this thread. Crowbar can count as extreme, they're what I'd categorize as doom/sludge. I'm more familiar with Down than Crowbar, is Phil from Pantera in Crowbar too? If I remember Crowbar has some members from Down.

I find it surprising that in a thread on extreme metal, I'm the first person to mention either Burzum, or Sunn 0))) . I happen to like Sunn 0))) quite a bit.

Yes, Phil is the singer for Down, and their lead guitarist is Pepper Keenan from C.O.C (one of my favorites.) I think the rythm guitarist from Down is also in Crowbar, but I base this assumption solely on the fact that they are both fat bald men with Flying V guitars. Down isn't entirely doom/sludge, though. They incorporate a lot of blues, progressive/"classic" rock, and straight-up ass tearing metal into their music. I'll post some of their more extreme stuff later if you want.

It's not that, I just am comfortable using genres as adjectives--I don't consider this stuff set in stone. I'm also not completely ignorant about the roots EBM and Industrial. I don't like most of it because of the low sound quality. If music has low sound quality, I rarely like it, and I'm not inclined to listen or care much about music I don't like. As far as I'm concerned, every band should be looked at on its own, and not be shoved into a single label when it has many different influences.

To be totally technical I consider The Kovenant to be Industrial Black Metal (well, except SETI, which was just Industrial Metal without anything Black Metal-y about it), but I still think they count as extreme metal, and they consider themselves to be extreme metal. (Especially their earlier stuff, like Nexus Polaris, which was pretty much entirely Black Metal.)

Psyclon Nine is very Industrial/EBM, yes, but they also have a very large metal influence, consider themselves extreme industrial metal, and they have the black metal singing style. I'm not here to debate, just to mention bands that some people in this thread might be interested in looking up.

Well these days it isn't very set in stone I agree, there are tons of bands that defy catagoration, just not the ones you're talking about, when you listen to these bands you realise just how much alike some of these bands that use labels are, you just need to realise that yes bands do often share similarities and this is what it is based on. They should but they wont, of course this doesn't mean that bands will be judged all the time, labels are there to help a person understand what it sounds like, not hinder. Alot of these bands that fall under the same genre have the same influences and just choose to utilise that influence in different ways.

You can't just make up new genres, it doesn't work that way, they used to make Black Metal and now have influences that are more Industrial and Experimental, very little of their sound is Black Metal and most fans of theirs would not only accept this but be proud of it (Even the bands members talk about Black Metal being too stale and their music being far beyond it), frankly if you can give me a source that contradicts what I say I'd be happy to see it but I can't see it being better than the band themselves. Actually I don't know about that, they seem to be getting more popular and accessible in my opinion, I once gave some of their songs to a friend of mine who was very Pop orientated and she liked it alot even though she hasn't ever heard Metal before, I think it might have even contributed to her breaking up with her boyfriend.

Yeah that album was Melodic Black Metal, and it was under the Covenant name.

I've heard other Terror EBM, they don't sound all that different to them. But really if you don't want to debate don't, if you didn't want to be doing this you should have said so, however I don't see it stopping you from telling them.

I still say you're a newbie Rivethead though.