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willem
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05 Jun 2007, 1:22 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
The existence of multiple groups attempting to do this ends up dampening the effects of the individual groups.


Their interests are similar more often than dissimilar, hence they will cooperate more often than compete.

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Ultimately though, humanity needs some form of group structure in order to survive and because of that I would prefer the more fragmented authority of a market than any more central authority.


The fragmentation you observe is an illusion. A group structure can of course be beneficial, but only to those who oversee the structure, and to those who are nothing other than elements of the structure.

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The profit motive ultimately means that instead of me bowing to them, these companies have to serve me.


...by giving you things you never knew you wanted... :)


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05 Jun 2007, 7:43 am

willem wrote:
Their interests are similar more often than dissimilar, hence they will cooperate more often than compete.
No, their interests go against each others in many cases so therefore they will compete more so than cooperate. They want to get the most money possible, often by stealing their opponents competition, this means that cooperation often breaks down because one wants to get an edge on the other.

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The fragmentation you observe is an illusion. A group structure can of course be beneficial, but only to those who oversee the structure, and to those who are nothing other than elements of the structure.
Not an illusion though, if it were an illusion then I would think there would be less collapses of major projects, less public quarrels amongst supposed elites, and no entrepreneurs ever.

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...by giving you things you never knew you wanted... :)

No, when I get something I know I want it. I might not want what you think I should want, but I am very good at knowing what I want and getting that. Frankly, I don't buy the "created wants" argument that some people put forward, I have never seen someone mind dominated by an ad, one finds it persuasive or one doesn't. Just like with a telemarketer's call, although less intrusive.



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05 Jun 2007, 7:54 am

Politics is the only thing more boring
than business studies in high
which had me mourning
for the sign to crouch low
in the vain hopes of avoiding
the scorching
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05 Jun 2007, 9:04 am

The test said 72 percent capitalist, but I am a free market believer all the way. Socialism and communism have resulted in murder and destruction of lives among the living. I'm inclined to agree with Nutbag. Some of these questions are too generic. I believe in fair trade, not simply open loop free trade. I don't believe anyone ought to be coerced into contributing to a cause. I contribute to my local humane society because I believe in the work they do and everything stays local. With too many charities, you don't know where the money is going.



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05 Jun 2007, 9:27 am

You Are 24% Capitalist, 76% Socialist

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You tend to be quite wary of businesses, especially big business.
While you know that corporations have their place, you tend to support small, locally owned shops.
As far as the rich go, you think they're usually corrupt and immoral.

Are You a Socialist or Capitalist?

http://www.blogthings.com/areyouasocialistorcapitalistquiz/


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