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23 Nov 2020, 1:01 pm

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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.



So what exactly has he done besides date someone who's mother is in a profession that you don't approve of? :?

Well it seems the GF and her mother asked for a large loan. That sort of changes the situation.


Indeed, but that appears to have happened after the first post (and judgment) was made.


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23 Nov 2020, 9:53 pm

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@RightGalaxy: Assuming for the moment that you are successful in destroying your son's relationship ... do you have someone else lined up to take his girlfriend's place?

I mean, if you are going to meddle in his relationship, why not go all the way and line up another girlfriend, a marriage license (requiring only his signature), and someone official to marry them off?

Well?


Please send me a PM on what you mean.



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23 Nov 2020, 10:10 pm

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@RightGalaxy: Assuming for the moment that you are successful in destroying your son's relationship ... do you have someone else lined up to take his girlfriend's place?

I mean, if you are going to meddle in his relationship, why not go all the way and line up another girlfriend, a marriage license (requiring only his signature), and someone official to marry them off?

Well?


Some countries still do that, I believe.

As Raj's father said, "Love is overrated, and it never lasts". :mrgreen:



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23 Nov 2020, 10:19 pm

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Does "John" mean something other then someones name?


I believe “John” is a slang term for the customer of the prostitute.

This thread is sad. It’s hard to know what led the mom of the girlfriend into prostitution - I only hope it was her free choice as an adult. The girlfriend grew up with prostitution as a normal way of life.

I think selling your body is fine but doing so out of desperation is the shame of the culture not the individual.

Why blame the seller and not the more powerful buyer? Religious people “throw stones” to this day even though Christianity depicts this very situation in the Bible.

Why is our culture full of starving people struggling to even afford a decent education? Living without healthcare? Unable to afford the majority of housing?
Why isn’t the wage for the lowest rung of wages enough to live?
And why are so many people ok with the porn industry but not the prostitutes? I’m amazed at the number of people who accept porn as forgivable or even part of their daily life but prostitution is not.


The mother has broad-minded views.
The daughter grew up with a mother with broad-minded views.
The daughter has broad-minded views.

See how it works, everyone?
Not rocket surgery. :mrgreen:

The thing is, religion did dominate cultural morality, and that morality is man-made and defies pragmatism and the actual reality we live in.
Religion doesn't have the blind allegiance it used to have, in most parts of the world, any longer.
Hence, the greater numbers of more broadminded people. 8)



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23 Nov 2020, 10:20 pm

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Does "John" mean something other then someones name?


Yes. "John" means a "Punter". 8)



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23 Nov 2020, 10:22 pm

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I'm mostly of the same mindset as Fireblossom here, I wouldn't judge the girlfriends profession, but ultimately it is your house and therefore your rules. It's not like your son is a minor.


Agreed.
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23 Nov 2020, 10:31 pm

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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.


Why didn't you give us the entire picture?

I had an extended relationship with a sex worker, on and off, for 10 years.
She is a decent human being who was struggling with life.
I am convinced she is an autie. A naughty autie, to be precise. :mrgreen:

In your OP, you made it clear that you had a problem with "prostitutes".
You did *not* make it clear you have a problem with the *character* of the persons involved.

I rest my case, me lord. 8)



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24 Nov 2020, 12:01 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.

Sending your son to college doesn't mean he has to live his entire life according to your wishes and biases. By the way, when you call him an s.o.b., do you realize what you're actually saying?


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24 Nov 2020, 2:06 am

What is your sons lifestyle anyway, outside of dating? And how was he able to run into the prostitute? Does he hang around these sort of people, or was he just using a dating site? I am fairly certain it has to be one of the following two things:

Either

a) Your son lives like a thug so he looks for the thugs like him. In this case, teaching him better values should be your focus.

Or

b) Your son can't get anybody due to Asperger so he will take anyone and everyone out of desperation. In this case try to help him find someone, as others suggested.

I am glad that she is finally out of his life. However, if he already have had sex with her, he should be tested for STD-s.



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24 Nov 2020, 2:14 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.


Honestly, it does sound like they're users. I think you're right and your son needs to give these users the boot.



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24 Nov 2020, 2:26 am

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Does "John" mean something other then someones name?

A "John" is a customer/consumer/client of sexual favors.

Mountain Goat, my post has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs or the Bible. It has to do with my kid surviving this horrible life with the disadvantage of aspergers.


Side note: a lot of what is written in the Bible is designed to keep us safe. And the fact that Bible is opposed to prostitution has everything to do with all the secular things you talked about, and more. Because God is the creator, He knows what is good for us, and He has our interest at heart. What is the purpose of the little kid not running across the road in the middle of the traffic? To please a parent, or to be safe? Both. Well, God is our ultimate parent, and all the mistakes we make in life is like a traffic. If we simply listen to what God has to say, we know to stay away from prostitutes even if we never heard of pimps and drugs and all that is involved. But if we don't believe in God, then I guess we have to learn things the hard way since no matter how much we know, we can't possibly know as much as God does.

There is a good chance that if the world followed dietary laws, prescribed in the Bible, we won't have COVID 19 right now. Because whatever sea creature Chinese people ate was not kosher. There are scientific reasons behind kosher laws. The animals that eat other animals accumulate all the toxins other animals accumulated. And the sea creatures that don't have scales absorb all the toxins in the ocean. And those kosher laws were written 3 millenia ago, long before people had any scientific means of figuring it out. Why? Because God knows our bodies better than we do, and He knows what is good for us.

On a flip side, if people don't follow the Bible, then they have no blueprint of what is right or wrong. And then you have to explain to them why dating prostitutes is wrong, like you see in this thread.



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24 Nov 2020, 2:39 am

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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.

Sending your son to college doesn't mean he has to live his entire life according to your wishes and biases. By the way, when you call him an s.o.b., do you realize what you're actually saying?


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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.


Honestly, it does sound like they're users. I think you're right and your son needs to give these users the boot.


Keep in mind, there was no mention of this in the OP's first post. 8)



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Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.


Honestly, it does sound like they're users. I think you're right and your son needs to give these users the boot.


Keep in mind, there was no mention of this in the OP's first post. 8)


What she wrote about "knife-wielding pimps" is about prostitutes in general, not this specific prostitute. So she had a general knowledge about the prostitutes in general, and that general knowledge said they are not safe. She assumed others have that general knowledge too, thats why she didn't mention it in the OP, cause she assumed others know it.



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RightGalaxy wrote:
Pepe wrote:
RightGalaxy wrote:
My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.


Honestly, it does sound like they're users. I think you're right and your son needs to give these users the boot.


Keep in mind, there was no mention of this in the OP's first post. 8)


What she wrote about "knife-wielding pimps" is about prostitutes in general, not this specific prostitute. So she had a general knowledge about the prostitutes in general, and that general knowledge said they are not safe. She assumed others have that general knowledge too, thats why she didn't mention it in the OP, cause she assumed others know it.


If true, that was a wrong assumption. 8)



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On a flip side, if people don't follow the Bible, then they have no blueprint of what is right or wrong. And then you have to explain to them why dating prostitutes is wrong, like you see in this thread.


Tens of millions of people lived before Christianity, and billions live outside it today. Good people living good lives. Your belief system is just one among many. Are you aware that in some cultures, prostitution has been considered honorable, even sacred? Probably not; everything you write indicates a painfully narrow, uninformed world view.


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