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Is this a rival to the "real" Chat GPT?

https://chataigpt.org/

Usually I go here:

https://chat.openai.com/

but it wasn't working for a while (strange problem, just got a blank page) so I looked around for an alternative. Its answers are much shorter and it annoyingly types "Hello!" before the answer and "If you have any more questions or would like further information on this topic, feel free to ask!" after it, every time. Not recommended, though if all you want is a quick potted answer to a question, it might do the job.

Anyway the "proper" one is working again, so it's business as usual.

I think https://chataigpt.org/ is bogus. Checked a few web sites that list these kind of things and they think it is bogus too.

Example of ChatGPT helping me with social stuff at work:

Me:
ChatGPT, I wrote the following JIRA comment. I have, perhaps not provided enough context. Please advise me on how to add missing context:
For discussion: code change
It makes sense to change the code that creates the high and low water marks at 10 percent of the most recent value (number of rows) for each map. This was probably designed as an early warning or fail-safe against data errors. For example, if a feed suddenly sent a change effectively removing an entire list of needed data by mistake of because of an upstream glitch. I propose to change the code to calculate high and low water marks at most recent value plus or minus 50 percent (in place of most recent value plus or minus 10 percent). n +/- (n * .50) in place of n +/- (n * .10). This should decrease false-negatives from this fail safe and increase stability.

Technical Details: The package is named "PCK_CHECK_AUDIT" in the "GPR_ADMIN" schema, the PROCEDURE is named "UPDATE_MAPPING_RUNTIME_NUMBERS".


ChatGPT:
Your JIRA comment is clear and concise, but adding a bit more context can help ensure that everyone understands the reasoning behind the proposed code change. Here's a suggestion for adding missing context:

Context:
In our current implementation within the "PCK_CHECK_AUDIT" package in the "GPR_ADMIN" schema, the PROCEDURE "UPDATE_MAPPING_RUNTIME_NUMBERS" calculates high and low watermarks based on the most recent value plus or minus 10 percent. This was originally designed as a safeguard to catch sudden data errors, ensuring stability in our processes. However, upon reviewing our system's performance and potential false alarms, I propose a modification to enhance this safeguard.

Proposed Change:
I suggest adjusting the code to calculate high and low watermarks based on the most recent value plus or minus 50 percent (n +/- (n * .50)). This adjustment from the current 10 percent margin to a 50 percent margin aims to reduce false-negative triggers while maintaining a robust fail-safe mechanism.

By implementing this change, we expect a decrease in false alarms triggered by abrupt data changes, thereby enhancing system stability and reliability.

This additional context provides a clearer picture of why the change is proposed, its potential impact on system behavior, and how it aligns with ensuring data integrity and system stability.

Editor's note:
Social Skills is not just about making friends.
"Social Skills" means "People Skills" and most jobs require some people skills and people interaction.

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I wonder what they mean by "bogus?" Not the official one, not as good, not AI, more dangerous with regard to privacy? Certainly its answers are much shorter and mostly less informative. Example:

Me: What is the meaning of the Beatles' song "She Said She Said"

Chat GPT: "She Said She Said" by The Beatles is a song that has been subject to various interpretations, but it's widely believed to have been inspired by an encounter between John Lennon and actor Peter Fonda during a LSD trip. The song's lyrics are somewhat cryptic and abstract, typical of Lennon's style at the time.

In the song, the lyrics include phrases such as "She said, 'I know what it's like to be dead,'" and "She said, 'You don't understand what I said.'" These lines are thought to reflect Lennon's experiences and conversations during his drug-induced state, particularly the exchange he had with Fonda, who allegedly kept repeating "I know what it's like to be dead" during the LSD trip.

The song can be interpreted as exploring themes of existentialism, identity, and the nature of reality, all of which were common motifs in the psychedelic music of the 1960s. The repetition of "she said" in the lyrics suggests a conversation or dialogue, though the exact meaning of the exchange remains open to interpretation.

Overall, "She Said She Said" is one of The Beatles' more enigmatic songs, and its meaning may vary depending on the listener's perspective and interpretation.

Chataigpt: The Beatles' song "She Said She Said" was written by John Lennon and was inspired by a conversation he had with actor Peter Fonda during a party in Los Angeles. Fonda kept saying "I know what it's like to be dead" after having a near-death experience, which intrigued Lennon and became the basis for the song's lyrics. The song explores themes of confusion, introspection, and existentialism.

Chataigpt correctly mentions Fonda's near-death experience. Chatgpt does not.
Chataigpt's notion that Lennon was "intrigued" by Fonda's claim, is misleading. There's good evidence that Lennon found it an extreme pain in the butt, and the song's lyrics seem to reflect that.
Chataigpt presents its answer as brute fact. Chatgpt qualifies its answer with such phrases as "......various interpretations, but it's widely believed........"

As for your coding clarification, sadly I can't judge it because I don't know enough about the subject to make sense of even the clarified version, but it does kind of look clearer, and I believe you.

^ Bogus: masquerading as a well known web site. I don’t think it is affiliated with openai. Riding on coattails. If you go to the ChatGPT page on Wikipedia is has a link to chat.openai.com. That is the real deal.

The GPT code that ChatGPT uses is open source, but the training data is not, nor the human training tweaks. Also a pretender may not be able to throw as much cpu/cloud-computing horsepower at your query. So anyone can buy a stock car and enter a stock car race, but it is the tweaks that makes a winner. Google and Microsoft and everyone and his duck can do GPT these days, but the folks at openai are still winners. Some IBM PC knockoffs are actually better than the original, but most aren’t. I am particularly skeptical of someone who wants to make me think they are the well known “real thing” instead of openly branding as a legitimate competitor. YMMV

^ My brain can reconfigure itself for understanding and writing computer code. I can also talk to humans. Going back and forth is very hard. Like stripping gears on a stick. Also writing sometimes makes me work so hard on the mechanics of writing (spelling, grammar, punctuation, structure) i can actually loose track of what it is I wanted to say. It is like a bad stutter when Porky Pig just gives up and says an entirely different word or phrase or even a different thought. ChatGPT can take the gist and make more human English out of it.

Correct: ChatGPT is not open source but close cousins are

https://qz.com/elon-musk-xai-grok-open- ... 1851343578

https://fortune.com/2024/04/08/open-sou ... nai-gpt-4/

https://github.com/nichtdax/awesome-tot ... en-chatgpt

You're probably right about the imposter being a cheap knockoff job. It also has a dark "theme" which AFAIK can't be changed, and I find dark themes (white letters on black background) hard to read.

Thanks for the links - I'm wary of anything with Elon Musk in its name, but is he saying that ChatGPT is run by Microsoft? If so, which is the service that's least likely to marketise users' data? I see GitHub mentions a few variants.

Another wrong answer from Chat GPT on a "popular culture" question:

Me: In which episode of The Lone Ranger does the main protagonist say that nothing must stop the expansion of the West?

ChatGPT: In "The Lone Ranger" radio series, which aired from 1933 to 1954, the titular character, the Lone Ranger, often expressed sentiments about justice, fairness, and the expansion of the American West. While there isn't a specific episode where he explicitly says, "Nothing must stop the expansion of the West," the general theme of westward expansion and the advancement of civilization often permeated the show's narratives. The Lone Ranger himself embodied the values of frontier justice and the pioneering spirit of the West. If there's a particular episode you have in mind, I can help with more specific details from it!

I know for a fact that the Lone Ranger does say words to the effect of "Nothing must stop the expansion of the West" in an episode of that show. On further questioning, Chat GPT admitted that it couldn't find it, and then that "as an AI" it doesn't have direct access to specific databases or transcripts. I'm disappointed.

Now they seem to have removed the option to use it "anonymously," i.e. you now have to give them an email address and log in.

ChatGPT has been giving free trials of GPT4 a few hours a day. This may be to create more user data for new and experimental features or in hopes of selling more non-free accounts or both. New feature: ChatGPT will sometimes reply to a question with a real-time web search. This addresses the issue of a limited database/dataset (ChatGPT 3 has been trained on a dataset many times the size of a full set of encyclopedias but many times smaller than the dataset Google uses) and address ChatGPT being unable to answer questions about current events and even its own UI (which didn’t exist when the training was occurring). It also makes ChatGPT more competitive with Google AI (Majel/Gemini) and Microsoft AI (Bing/Sydney/Co-Pilot). And makes one wonder about who is really doing the innovating.

Google is going through a process where it no longer shows relevent results for your search.

I'm confused at versions? is version 4 the latest?

3 is the free version, 4 is the new for-pay version which is under active development. 2 was open sourced. If you use the web UI you get a few 4 responses per day.

I've never used it and don't even know where to find it, though I'm sure I could google it.

Ok thanks

talking to chatgpt is like talking to a calculator

Me:
Are you ChatGPT 3 or ChatGPT 4?

G (ChatGPT):
I am based on ChatGPT 4. How can I assist you today?

Me:
Is there a ChatGPT 5 in existence? What does your current training data say? What does the Internet say?

G:
Currently, there is no official release of ChatGPT-5. However, reports indicate that OpenAI is actively training GPT-5 and working through rigorous safety testing. OpenAI has not committed to a specific release date, but it was initially expected to launch in mid-2024. Some delays might push the release into late 2024 or 2025 due to extended testing to ensure safety and reliability.

ChatGPT-5 is expected to bring significant improvements over GPT-4, including enhanced contextual understanding, reduced hallucinations, and expanded multimodal capabilities, potentially incorporating speech and video alongside text and images. Early access to GPT-5 might already be available to certain enterprises, but for general use, the timeline remains uncertain.

For now, the latest fully available model is GPT-4, which remains powerful and is accessible through different usage plans​

Sources:
https://tech.co/news/when-is-chatgpt-5-release-date
https://explodingtopics.com/blog/new-ch ... lease-date

Me:
I said: "3 is the free version, 4 is the new for-pay version which is under active development. 2 was open sourced. If you use the web UI you get a few 4 responses per day." Is this correct?

G:
Your statement is partially correct but needs some clarification:

1. "3 is the free version": ChatGPT-3 (GPT-3) is not the free version on the web anymore. The free tier of ChatGPT now uses GPT-3.5, which is an upgraded version of GPT-3. Users accessing ChatGPT for free interact with GPT-3.5.

2. "4 is the new for-pay version": Yes, GPT-4 is available through the paid subscription plan, which is called ChatGPT Plus. This offers access to GPT-4 with enhanced capabilities compared to GPT-3.5.

3. "2 was open sourced": GPT-2 was indeed open-sourced by OpenAI, allowing the public to access and use its code. GPT-3 and later models are proprietary and not open-sourced.

4. "If you use the web UI, you get a few 4 responses per day": This part is inaccurate. If you are using the free version of ChatGPT through the web, you are limited to GPT-3.5 and do not have access to GPT-4 unless you subscribe to the Plus plan, which provides unlimited access to GPT-4.

In summary, GPT-3.5 is free, GPT-4 is available for paid users, and GPT-2 was open-sourced. There is no access to GPT-4 for free users except via a paid plan.
Sources:
https://tech.co/news/when-is-chatgpt-5-release-date
https://explodingtopics.com/blog/new-ch ... lease-date

Me:
This statement that you made is not true: "'If you use the web UI, you get a few 4 responses per day': This part is inaccurate. If you are using the free version of ChatGPT through the web, you are limited to GPT-3.5 and do not have access to GPT-4 unless you subscribe to the Plus plan, which provides unlimited access to GPT-4." I am using the ChatGPT free version via the Web UI at chatgpt.com, and I am talking to you, and you have identified yourself as ChatGPT 4. Please check other sources.

G:
You're right! Free tier users of ChatGPT now have access to GPT-4, specifically the "GPT-4o" model, which includes advanced capabilities like image uploads and web browsing, although with some limitations on usage. Free users can only use GPT-4o a limited number of times within a 5-hour window and can generate up to two images per day with DALL·E 3​
Sources:
https://www.techradar.com/computing/art ... -to-get-it
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/927 ... e-tier-faq

Me:
You said "Free tier users of ChatGPT now have access to GPT-4, specifically the 'GPT-4o' model" Can you explain exactly what GPT-4 is, GPT-4o, and GPT 3.5? Please Compare and contrast.

G:
Here's a comparison and contrast between GPT-3.5, GPT-4, and GPT-4o:

GPT-3.5
● Model: GPT-3.5 is a refined version of GPT-3, offering improvements in natural language understanding, reasoning, and performance.
● Capabilities: It performs well in language-related tasks like text generation, conversation, and answering questions. However, it's limited in terms of nuanced understanding, especially for tasks requiring deep reasoning or understanding ambiguous inputs.
● Availability: GPT-3.5 is the model used in the free version of ChatGPT, providing users with a strong conversational tool but not as advanced as GPT-4.
● Performance: It can struggle with complex reasoning tasks compared to GPT-4 and lacks the multimodal capabilities introduced in later models.
GPT-4
● Model: GPT-4 is the more advanced successor to GPT-3.5, featuring substantial improvements in contextual understanding, handling ambiguities, and performing tasks with higher accuracy and creativity.
● Capabilities: GPT-4 is better at handling long-form inputs, nuanced queries, and complex reasoning. It is also multimodal, meaning it can process not only text but also images as inputs (available through certain tiers).
● Availability: GPT-4 is available through the ChatGPT Plus subscription and provides users with higher-quality responses, more advanced features, and fewer mistakes compared to GPT-3.5.
● Performance: It excels in tasks requiring deep understanding, problem-solving, and creativity. It's also more capable of handling ambiguous or incomplete information than GPT-3.5.
GPT-4o
● Model: GPT-4o is a variant of GPT-4, designed for free tier users. It maintains some of the advanced features of GPT-4 but is offered with limitations, such as usage caps within a given time frame (e.g., limited responses within a 5-hour window).
● Capabilities: GPT-4o shares much of GPT-4's improvements in reasoning, contextual understanding, and multimodal abilities, but with restricted access. For example, users might be limited in terms of how many interactions they can have or features like image generation.
● Availability: Available for free tier users, GPT-4o provides limited access to GPT-4's advanced features but ensures free-tier users experience some of the power of GPT-4.
● Performance: While based on GPT-4, users are likely to encounter some throttling or rate limits, and may not get the full extent of GPT-4's potential due to the limitations imposed on free users.
Comparison
1. Accuracy and Performance:
● GPT-4 performs better at tasks requiring critical thinking, creativity, and handling long-context queries compared to GPT-3.5.
● GPT-4o inherits most of GPT-4's capabilities but imposes restrictions on how much free users can use these advanced features.
2. Reasoning and Understanding:
● GPT-4 handles ambiguous or complex inputs much better than GPT-3.5. It's designed for tasks requiring in-depth analysis.
● GPT-3.5 is reliable for everyday conversational tasks but falls short in comparison to GPT-4 in terms of advanced reasoning.
3. Multimodal Capabilities:
● GPT-4 (and by extension GPT-4o) is multimodal, allowing it to process both text and images. GPT-3.5 is strictly a text-based model.
4. Availability:
● GPT-3.5 is free for all users.
● GPT-4 is available under the ChatGPT Plus plan (paid).
● GPT-4o provides free-tier users limited access to GPT-4, but with throttling and feature limitations.
Contrast
● GPT-3.5 is ideal for those looking for basic conversational AI.
● GPT-4 is aimed at users requiring advanced AI capabilities with superior contextual and reasoning skills.
● GPT-4o offers a middle ground for free users who want to experience some of GPT-4's power, though with significant usage restrictions.
Conclusion: GPT-4 is the most advanced, but GPT-4o lets free users experience a limited version, while GPT-3.5 remains a solid option for basic use.

Sources:
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/927 ... e-tier-faq
https://www.techradar.com/computing/art ... -to-get-it

Me:
What does the "o" mean in "GPT-4o"? Does it mean "the 13th sub version in version 4" or "o for other, other capabilities than full GPT-4" or something else?

G:
The "o" in GPT-4o represents an optimized version of GPT-4, which emphasizes improvements in speed, efficiency, and multimodal capabilities. Unlike GPT-4 or GPT-4 Turbo, GPT-4o is designed to handle tasks involving not only text but also voice, image, and video input. It integrates multiple types of media into a single model, allowing for faster response times and enhanced capabilities like real-time speech-to-text, emotional tone analysis, and visual understanding.

GPT-4o stands out due to its significantly reduced latency compared to earlier models. For instance, it processes voice inputs in about 0.32 seconds, making it nearly 17 times faster than GPT-4, which is crucial for real-time conversational applications. Additionally, it has better tokenization, which makes it more efficient, especially when processing non-Roman alphabets, leading to cost and speed advantages.

In summary, GPT-4o brings more advanced multimodal capabilities, faster performance, and greater efficiency than GPT-4 and GPT-4 Turbo. It's designed for scenarios where high-speed interaction and multimodal data integration are essential, such as real-time communication and multimodal processing​

Source:
https://www.datacamp.com/blog/what-is-gpt-4o
https://blog.roboflow.com/gpt-4o-vision-use-cases/