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26 Jul 2024, 8:19 pm

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Look, now that I've calmed down, I don't really want to have to lie and cheat my way through life. But I feel like I have no other option.

And I hate that my parents coddle me and don't think I can do anything on my own.

If that's the main point -- any plans to move away?
Find a more forgiving places where one doesn't have to cheat their way up?

That itself is a major change, for better or for worse. A distance can do you some good.

And that's what no-contact goes towards usually and if you refuse to work things out at all.



Whether or not forgiveness is your goal, you're very much free to go behind their backs or have a separate life from your family even if one is also living in the same roof.
You have a right to privacy. You have a choice to tell your own plans or not.

As an adult, you're not entirely obligated to disclose anything to them even if they're your parents unless you are actually dependent on them for everything.
What, are they gonna ground you or something?

If you have the impulse to tell them things, show them things, it meant you still need them for something.
And it's got nothing to do with anyone's development or even impulsive control; but to do with one's attachment and relationship towards them.

And as an adult, you can go beyond the childhood perception of them where they're in charge of your decisions and please them to not disappoint them.
You can see them as another flawed people who happened to raise you, not someone you're obligated to respect and revere 24/7.

And if you're convinced that you want to prove something to them, what do you think will gain their trust?

Parents can be like that, especially with ND kids; more you go solo and never let them know, the harder they cling and the more discrepant their perception of you and the reality will be.

Like you can work hard, and still think you're 10 and everything your 10 year old self like and dislike and therefore dismiss you as such or something regardless of one's achievements or neurology (meaning even if you're NT) even.

Or, make them less relevant to you and your decision making.
Usually one would start in their pubescent years or teenage rebellious phases to test such and such.

Maybe you're actually in such phase at the moment (no shame even if you're in your 30s but better late than never) but who knows since I don't know the scope of your own development.

And no shame while living with your parents still, especially in this current era because it's actually a rising trend that even NTs with 2 jobs are struggling to survive in their economy around the states I'm sure.


Coddled or not coddled, labeled or not; though frustrating as it is, it's just a matter of emotionally processing whatever other people did to you all the same -- you're still taking your own development in your own hands right now.


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26 Jul 2024, 8:47 pm

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Look, now that I've calmed down, I don't really want to have to lie and cheat my way through life. But I feel like I have no other option.

And I hate that my parents coddle me and don't think I can do anything on my own.

If that's the main point -- any plans to move away?
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Moving out next week. Lease starts Aug 1



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26 Jul 2024, 9:23 pm

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Look, now that I've calmed down, I don't really want to have to lie and cheat my way through life. But I feel like I have no other option.

And I hate that my parents coddle me and don't think I can do anything on my own.

If that's the main point -- any plans to move away?

Moving out next week. Lease starts Aug 1

Packing light or heavily?
Told anyone or told no one?

Burning all bridges or plan to maintain some communication?

Thoughts and strategies relevant to the economy of your place of choice?

Rent, housing, etc.
You already got your job, you already had living space inquiries as far as I can tell.

Approaches towards the chosen locale's culture?
Contingencies if it doesn't pan out?

Ready for possible lifestyle changes?
Especially if money will be tight or the availability of your new location one might change their diets and habits; the geography, where's safe and not safe on top of that...


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26 Jul 2024, 9:44 pm

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Packing light or heavily?
Told anyone or told no one?

Burning all bridges or plan to maintain some communication?

Thoughts and strategies relevant to the economy of your place of choice?

Rent, housing, etc.
You already got your job, you already had living space inquiries as far as I can tell.

Approaches towards the chosen locale's culture?
Contingencies if it doesn't pan out?

Ready for possible lifestyle changes?
Especially if money will be tight or the availability of your new location one might change their diets and habits; the geography, where's safe and not safe on top of that...


Limited contact. Taking most of my things. Saving 20% of my paycheck for emergencies/future house down payment.

I'm going to see if I can get my autism diagnosis removed from medical records. No one other than my girlfriend knows about my diagnosis and I don't want anyone else to ever know.

I want to start my life new.



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26 Jul 2024, 10:20 pm

FrostBender wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Packing light or heavily?
Told anyone or told no one?

Burning all bridges or plan to maintain some communication?

Thoughts and strategies relevant to the economy of your place of choice?

Rent, housing, etc.
You already got your job, you already had living space inquiries as far as I can tell.

Approaches towards the chosen locale's culture?
Contingencies if it doesn't pan out?

Ready for possible lifestyle changes?
Especially if money will be tight or the availability of your new location one might change their diets and habits; the geography, where's safe and not safe on top of that...


Limited contact. Taking most of my things. Saving 20% of my paycheck for emergencies/future house down payment.

I'm going to see if I can get my autism diagnosis removed from medical records. No one other than my girlfriend knows about my diagnosis and I don't want anyone else to ever know.

I'm sure that's not easy. But good luck trying.


As long as;

You're not super vulnerable to mental health issues like most autistics do.
Yeah, that's another layer of masking you will have to carry. Best to make it enjoyable than distressing.

Needing psych medications to function is huge. Or needing more recharge time.
Unless you're not ashamed of other labels like ADHD, CPTSD or anxiety?
Or able to self medicate (not necessarily meds) or micro-dose stuff like no one's business.

The weight of risks and benefits is entirely up to you if you know what you're doing, or your doctor/lawyer says so.


As for getting caught by someone close yet unable to alter or seal your records off; sure, you can claim to be misdiagnosed or something.

It's easy to deny autism under different labels, actually.
You can even claim to be allistic alexithymic with some learning issues and why you mask, have developmental histories (if it's there) and 'seem autistic' with all the social profiles of it.

Because, frankly, it's no one's business.


Or make a story entirely based on your truth if someone confronts you about it; that your parents are at least exaggerating about your diagnosis and treated you differently, that diagnosis 'ruined your life' so to speak by not pushing you hard enough.

There are some similar stories out there in the internet. Even here in WP at one point or another.

The same emotional processing nuisance, whether born out of denial or in need of affirmation.

The closest to the entire truth, the better.



And whose "side" am I ?

:lol: Someone who strives to be beyond such sentiments and attachment towards any labels because, as I said it; emotional processing is a fricking nuisance.


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27 Jul 2024, 11:15 am

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I don’t even love my girlfriend. I’m only with her to feel normal. Plus I know she’ll probably dump me for an NT.


Or, at least someone who actually loves her.

It seems like you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I only pretend to love her. She has no idea.

I have no morals or ethics. I only care about obtaining material things and appearing normal. My only fear is that someone will find out it’s all fake. So I have to keep masking.

I will only ever take the mask off when I have enough money to not have to work anymore.


And at least you can be yourself here

I know it's not the same as venting in real life but it's better than nothing


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27 Jul 2024, 11:36 am

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I have been screwed over so many times in my life that I can’t feel bad for other people’s struggles.

I don’t even love my girlfriend. I’m only with her to feel normal. Plus I know she’ll probably dump me for an NT.

Masking and developing sociopathic traits is the only thing that’s helped me.


Get help before you actually hurt someone.


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27 Jul 2024, 11:40 am

I truly believe OP is a narc and will harm someone and everyone is just being nice?

He's angry that he wasn't born rich and handsome so he gets to act like an as*hole and hurt people around him?

:lol:


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27 Jul 2024, 11:44 am

This is why I can't take this seriously. OP complains about life and then has a fit because it never conforms to him.

Like s**t dawg, welcome to the club. Welcome to struggling. Life is f*****g hard. I didn't know how to socialize or do anything else but I learned and I'm not going to treat random people poorly because someone was mean to me in the past.

Get over yourself lmao.


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27 Jul 2024, 12:22 pm

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I truly believe OP is a narc and will harm someone and everyone is just being nice?

He's angry that he wasn't born rich and handsome so he gets to act like an as*hole and hurt people around him?

:lol:

Being treated like crap as a child will make anyone into a narc.



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27 Jul 2024, 12:23 pm

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I have been screwed over so many times in my life that I can’t feel bad for other people’s struggles.

I don’t even love my girlfriend. I’m only with her to feel normal. Plus I know she’ll probably dump me for an NT.

Masking and developing sociopathic traits is the only thing that’s helped me.


Get help before you actually hurt someone.

I would never physically hurt someone. I'm self-aware enough to not get into trouble.



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27 Jul 2024, 12:31 pm

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I truly believe OP is a narc and will harm someone and everyone is just being nice?

He's angry that he wasn't born rich and handsome so he gets to act like an as*hole and hurt people around him?

:lol:

Being treated like crap as a child will make anyone into a narc.

Ok, I was abused. Bad enough CPS intervened. Not a narc. This is stupid reasoning and just a cop out to do bad things to people who don't deserve it because you're angry you're always going to be autistic no matter what you do or LARP as.

You're telling me you have such s**t self-esteem about yourself that because someone called you some mean name back in elementary school, you now have to be mean to everyone else.


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27 Jul 2024, 12:32 pm

FrostBender wrote:
honeytoast wrote:
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I have been screwed over so many times in my life that I can’t feel bad for other people’s struggles.

I don’t even love my girlfriend. I’m only with her to feel normal. Plus I know she’ll probably dump me for an NT.

Masking and developing sociopathic traits is the only thing that’s helped me.


Get help before you actually hurt someone.

I would never physically hurt someone. I'm self-aware enough to not get into trouble.

So you're admitting you will emotionally hurt someone then, with that reasoning? You are self-aware, like a NT, to NOT post your plans about how you want to LARP as a NT, so you will state that you will manipulate your girlfriend and pretend to love her like some master villain? As well as posting about how to drove someone off the road?

I must congratulate you on that stroke of genius. Truly astounding.


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27 Jul 2024, 12:44 pm

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FrostBender wrote:
honeytoast wrote:
I truly believe OP is a narc and will harm someone and everyone is just being nice?

He's angry that he wasn't born rich and handsome so he gets to act like an as*hole and hurt people around him?

:lol:

Being treated like crap as a child will make anyone into a narc.

Ok, I was abused. Bad enough CPS intervened. Not a narc. This is stupid reasoning and just a cop out to do bad things to people who don't deserve it because you're angry you're always going to be autistic no matter what you do or LARP as.

You're telling me you have such s**t self-esteem about yourself that because someone called you some mean name back in elementary school, you now have to be mean to everyone else.

I was beaten up multiple times in school. Parents and school did nothing.

Now I only care about how much money is in my bank accounts and how much stuff I can acquire.



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27 Jul 2024, 12:49 pm

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I was beaten up multiple times in school. Parents and school did nothing.

I take back what I said, but why continue to hold onto the anger? There's nothing to be done about it now. It happened, you can be angry about it, but holding onto is going to continue to make you bitter and hurt other people. Like yeah get rich whatever, make yourself feel better but even now when you are in a better standing, you're still ruminating over the past.

Like you're probably making more money now with a job, you have a place to stay and have a gf, yet you're still upset by what happened.


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27 Jul 2024, 1:05 pm

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I was beaten up multiple times in school. Parents and school did nothing.

I take back what I said, but why continue to hold onto the anger?

Because I hate being autistic. No amount of therapy or self-love will change that. I will mask for the rest of my life if I have to.

I can’t trust anyone anymore nor feel empathy for others.