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Brian0787
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Jakki wrote:
Where is IT when you need them...
...do not let IT dictate your dress code..
....
Auto darkening glasses with frames that accent your facial features well, may serve you well.. My blue blockers I used for Comp type screens are also auto darkening in brighter lights,. Many online stores carry these.
Anyone can live a life ..not all can do it in style ..






Auto darkening glasses with frames that accent your facial features well, may serve you well.. My blue blockers I used for Comp type screens are also auto darkening in brighter lights,. Many online stores carry these.

Anyone can live a life ..not all can do it in style ..

Thank you, Jakki! That's true



Brian0787 wrote:
I thought I would share something here that I wouldn't normally share but I'd like to hear what some others think. Like many people on the spectrum and even those who are NT I have self-esteem issues. This is probably a vain thing to say but I enjoy wearing dress clothes and suits because it increases my self-esteem. I never really cared for dress clothes growing up. I think I kind of hated wearing them to church when I was little. About five years ago I got an accounting job at a company that required a kind of business professional dress code.
We had CEO's who would occassionally come to the office. I was "required" to wear a tie and a dress shirt. I thought just wearing that by itself seemed kind of silly and thought "If I'm going to do that I might as well wear a suit". That's what I ended up doing. There were some girls (around my age and some slightly younger) who worked there and felt (this could have been in my mind) that I felt more attractive wearing one. It did also increase my confidence a bit and felt more polished and put together. At one point I even bought a suit vest to wear and made the suit a three-piece suit. I did like how it looked. Now even when I go out to things like the grocery store I still wear a suit jacket and dress clothes (without a tie). This is an incredibly vulnerable thing to say and admit but I like the attention I get from it. I wish that maybe wasn't the case but I can't lie and say I don't.
I sometimes feel bad that I am this way. I went to the store this evening and wore one out and the girl at the checkout asked what I did as she hardly ever sees anybody in one. I told her I worked in Accounting. It made me feel good to get the compliment. I am at the point now where I dislike wearing normal clothes anymore. I only wear run down clothes around the house and never in public. Even with outings with family to restaurants and family gatherings I wear a suit jacket. Maybe I'm trying to be someone I'm not but I feel better in one. Maybe this is another facet of the "Masking" phenomenon with ASD. I don't know what to make of it anymore but am interested in hearing what others think. I am thinking maybe this is something I need therapy for and is indicative of some self-esteem issues.
We had CEO's who would occassionally come to the office. I was "required" to wear a tie and a dress shirt. I thought just wearing that by itself seemed kind of silly and thought "If I'm going to do that I might as well wear a suit". That's what I ended up doing. There were some girls (around my age and some slightly younger) who worked there and felt (this could have been in my mind) that I felt more attractive wearing one. It did also increase my confidence a bit and felt more polished and put together. At one point I even bought a suit vest to wear and made the suit a three-piece suit. I did like how it looked. Now even when I go out to things like the grocery store I still wear a suit jacket and dress clothes (without a tie). This is an incredibly vulnerable thing to say and admit but I like the attention I get from it. I wish that maybe wasn't the case but I can't lie and say I don't.
I sometimes feel bad that I am this way. I went to the store this evening and wore one out and the girl at the checkout asked what I did as she hardly ever sees anybody in one. I told her I worked in Accounting. It made me feel good to get the compliment. I am at the point now where I dislike wearing normal clothes anymore. I only wear run down clothes around the house and never in public. Even with outings with family to restaurants and family gatherings I wear a suit jacket. Maybe I'm trying to be someone I'm not but I feel better in one. Maybe this is another facet of the "Masking" phenomenon with ASD. I don't know what to make of it anymore but am interested in hearing what others think. I am thinking maybe this is something I need therapy for and is indicative of some self-esteem issues.
It sounds like it's not the clothes that improve your self-esteem, but rather the reactions the clothes generate. One could say "it's the same thing", but there is a difference between wearing a suit making you feel good just for wearing it, and wearing a suit because people respond positively to it.
We ASD folk aren't exactly known for picking the right social cue, or for getting praised for trying - sadly - but in your case, you've managed to do both - and as such, it's understandable for you to want to play that card as much and as often as possible. To some extent, there's nothing wrong with that - but if you're only doing it for the approval, and not cos it means something to you personally, then it may be a bit of a "mask".
Just don't let it become your whole identity, and be honest with yourself as to why you're doing it. It probably would be good to discuss with a therapist.
Brian0787 wrote:
I think the old expression "It's what's inside that counts" fits best.
oF COURSE? AS WHAT4S INSIDE DETERMINES WHAT ONE WEARS§ bruddycapslock...
With hindsight, it should have been obvious which of my peers wanted to be a manager; they were the one's in the suits, with big hair, and always, ALWAYS, shinny shoes!
I also now realise that they also did very little engineering, spending far more time on meetings and power point presentations.
Of course they should be the ones in charge making important decisions...
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