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22 Mar 2025, 9:16 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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It'd be nice if there was an easy solution, but I'm not sure we'd ever learn responsibility if it was that easy. Too many people take things running well for granted and they need to learn that their choices have consequences.

Sometimes people don't understand what it is they've taken for granted and destroyed until they find out.

Where do you see things running well?

Well is relative, but electing people who's fundamental ideology is that government can't do anything right never makes government (or society) run better.

Since easy solutions like a magic reset button don't exist it takes people who are actually dedicated to making government run better, rather than imbeciles who flail around with a metaphoric (or worse, real) chainsaw and destroy everything they touch.

Unfortunately it seems a lot of people need to witness the failure of that approach first hand before they learn it's an idiotic non-solution.

At least your solution (in this thread) is funny to picture and doesn't harm a bunch of people in the process.

I was hoping that you would give me a current example of something running well. Anywhere.

My Etch-n-sketch fantasy was said in jest. Sorry if it offended in any way.

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22 Mar 2025, 9:21 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:

I was hoping that you would give me a current example of something running well. Anywhere.

My Etch-n-sketch fantasy was said in jest. Sorry if it offended in any way.

Examples are all around you, but probably won't be noticed until after they stop working as well as they do right now.

I'm not suggesting there isn't room for improvement with how government services are delivered, only that the idea that it's all entirely dysfunctional is so batshit insane that's it's difficult to even know where to start with refuting it.

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22 Mar 2025, 9:27 pm

What do you see running well where you are?

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22 Mar 2025, 9:33 pm

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What do you see running well where you are?

I struggle to think of anything that's running catastrophically poorly to the point that it proves government can't be trusted to run anything.

Electing people who don't believe government can do anything right into government seems like picking atheists debate bros to be your pastor.

If someone wants spiritual guidance, I'd be a poor choice of person to look to.
If someone wants government to run effectively, picking pseudo-libertarians who don't believe government can be competent is a demonstration of poor decision making skills.

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22 Mar 2025, 10:46 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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What do you see running well where you are?

Are you deliberately avoiding my question?

Can you give me just one teeny weeny example?

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22 Mar 2025, 10:51 pm

Atheist debate bros becoming pastors.

I pictured Richard Dawkins becoming The Pope.

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22 Mar 2025, 10:52 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

Stargazer99 wrote:

What do you see running well where you are?

Are you deliberately avoiding my question?

Can you give me just one teeny weeny example?

I did answer your question, you just don't like my answer because it rejects the framing you're wishing to impose.

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22 Mar 2025, 11:00 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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I did answer your question, you just don't like my answer because it rejects the framing you're wishing to impose.

You are very silly. You didn’t answer my question at all. But that’s your choice. It’s okay.

Moving on.

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22 Mar 2025, 11:05 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:

You didn’t answer my question at all.

funeralxempire wrote:

Stargazer99 wrote:

What do you see running well where you are?

I struggle to think of anything that's running catastrophically poorly to the point that it proves government can't be trusted to run anything.

That was the answer to your question, I'm sorry you missed it.

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22 Mar 2025, 11:13 pm

Relating even way less.

Even to ways I approach everyday forms of trauma?
Like yeah, sure, everyone has a form of childhood trauma because their parents are not perfect or that humans and life itself isn't.

I understand how false hope can be toxic.
I understand how non-acceptance can harm.

That to many, coping is OK.
That time will heal.

But apparently, that doesn't apply to me, too.

Because, to many people, ruling out with a possibility of reversal is a form of denial or one born from anxiety towards change.
They want a glimmer of hope.

And when they stop and accept that they're gonna cope forever, that'll be their reality. THEN they'll eventually move on.

Mine isn't.
It just did not work that way. It's more like I knew when to not accept and end up in a pit of stagnation, to acceptance and moving on.

Most people is either one or the other. And not enough nuance. Not enough contrasts.

I'm a pessimist, yet I still prefer to rule things out.
I don't blindly accept everything as is. :roll:

I get the human experience and all the crap *up there* -- but there's being *down here* as a human living in this reality.

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24 Mar 2025, 2:32 pm

I was buzzing to get my electric bill down to 70 quid for the month this month
It's not been that low since Putin declared war on Ukraine

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24 Mar 2025, 2:34 pm

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I was buzzing to get my electric bill down to 70 quid for the month this month
It's not been that low since Putin declared war on Ukraine

Well done, bb! :cheers:

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24 Mar 2025, 2:35 pm

I've won the war on fuel poverty :lol:

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24 Mar 2025, 2:37 pm

I tell you what though mate; I've tightened my belt that much my feet have gone numb

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24 Mar 2025, 2:38 pm

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I've won the war on fuel poverty :lol:

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24 Mar 2025, 2:38 pm

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I tell you what though mate; I've tightened my belt that much my feet have gone numb

Still, it must feel rewarding with such a low cost energy bill?

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