Is homosexuality a form of autism/wiring?

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there is another thing you cant choose and that is who has feelings for you back-I just had that happen to me recently-I had deep feelings for this person and because of my AS I have trouble expressing it and they always had a view of a difference in age being a problem and well I was thinking that as we hung out together more we would be more comfortable with each other and he would maybe realize that age is but a number as we are both on the spectrum and -bam he makes contact with someone and one date they go at "it" and he was only 3 years younger than me-well the age difference hang up he had went out the window right away-and he finally admitted to me that from the get go it wasn't an age difference problem it was because of my looks and personality.Talk about a kick in the self esteem and why wait a year to tell me its my looks when feelings on my part are getting stronger and be up front about it-he was up front right away with the person he went to bed with right away of his feelings on things and what he wanted.

Disagree a little bit. I think "being turned on" can be a Pavlovian response developed due to positive sexual experiences. A wonderful night of passion and orgasms with a man (or woman) and then you get turned on by the sight/touch/smell of that person, or others with similar attractive qualities. In other words I think that for many people, "I could never be turned on by a man/woman" could be "cured" by an erotic experience with the right partner. Of course I am not saying that people should do this, it is perfectly OK to stay in one's comfort zone.

I agree 100% that living in a homophobic society makes same-sex an unappealing choice for many. Part of this is a lack of positive queer role models (especially true for those of older generations). If your only exposure to queer culture is the "flaming" stereotype on TV then yes, it can seem like a ridiculous lifestyle choice. People with a more diverse and permissive social circle will be more likely to "experiment" I think. The hatred of gays you describe is sadly true in some places, but fortunately, in the year 2011, at least in some parts of the world, it is respected or even admired. I'm sure you have heard the word "Pride."

Social pressure is the number one reason why the ratio is so lopsided (90%/10% is one common estimate) in my opinion. In a hypothetical world where heterosexuality was taboo then I think this number would be closer to 50/50 or maybe even 10/90.

Most people are very quick to say that homosexuality and autism are in no way connected.

Nature has ways of weeding out the population, though.

I notice that many people on the spectrum are also asexual, this is very CLEARLY natures method of population control.

I also notice a lot of autistic traits in gay people. They may also have some traits that are the complete opposite of ASD behavior, but IME, I see more NT gay people who seem more like people on the spectrum than I see in the rest of the NT population.

I'm gay, and it certainly wasn't a choice for me. I don't think it's hereditary, but I do think it's biological. I haven't got any gay family members, but I did read that in families with brothers, each successive brother is more likely to be gay than the others. Curiously, that does not apply to sisters. Also worth noting is that I only have an older sister, although I rarely ever see her (I'm fifteen), and I don't have any contact with my father. However, a friend of mine has six (four older) brothers and lives with his father (not his mother) - so clearly homosexuality can arise with or without elder male influences. It seems to be pretty random to me, with the possibility of a few encouraging factors here and there.

I take issue with your statement that neurotypicals cannot deal with variation (although I've got paranoid schizophrenia - so I'm not certain that I could be considered neurotypical in any way except that I do not have autism).

Don't necessarily assume that it is not genetic just because you don't have any family members who are gay. It could be a recessive gene, for example. Or a polygenic trait where you were the first one in your family to get all of the right alleles together. To provide a counterexample to your experience, I'm gay and so is my uncle. (One of these days I really need to get around to having a good conversation with him about things). Genetics are complicated, so I don't think anecdotes can be used as a way to judge.

Another possibility that I've considered, and which may also apply to autism, is that we have a genetic tendency to be gay which gets "switched on" (probably in the womb). That is, there's a point in our development where the right conditions will trigger it, but it doesn't happen to everyone, and it only happens to those with that genetic makeup - hence the family trait.

I often question are reasoning of homosexuality. Personally, I believe that sexuality is far more complex than simply gay, straight, or bisexual. For me, at one point in my life I was generally more attracted to women and then to men and now I'm back on women again. It's very odd actually, but it's just how I am lol

Being Autistic is a natural occurrence.

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I'd say both autism and homosexuality have to do with wiring....however homosexuality doesn't cause difficulty in functioning. A homosexual person could develop things like depression and anxiety or other mental issues if they are mistreated/bullied over it, or they've felt the need to hide it due to fear of judgement. But it doesn't come with things like sensory issues or executive function problems and other functioning issues autism comes with....autism is more of a disorder because it can negatively interfere with functioning but that's not the case with homosexuality.

Because there is so much science to support corruption turning people gay....

Lol I suppose you better watch out for the corruption of the 'gay agenda' or you might wake up gay one morning....

As far as this idea that sexuality is a choice....I don't think it is, I mean I didn't choose to be heterosexual and I don't think I could turn myself homosexual. But even if it was a choice what would it matter? I don't think that would make it less legitimate.

If you don't count increased rates of depression,drug use,anxiety,narrsasism, then ya, it doesn't get in the way of your life. Plus it isn't wired. All these people come out at like 23 or 17 or 34. It isn't the same in any way to Asphergers.

They CHOSE to open Pandora's box anyway.

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^ The fable of pandora's box supposedly contained all the evil of the world, and opening it unleashed that evil.
Homosexuality is not an evil. It is not a corruption. It's just the way some people are. Plenty of straight people discover or explore different aspects of their sexuality at different times, too. Nothing wrong with that, either.
As for this "gay agenda" thing, I've never understood this. Most LGBT focused things promote equality, freedom of expression, tolerance for difference and inclusion for all people, regardless of orientation. So why is this "agenda" a bad thing to you?

That increase in anxiety and depression doesn't come from being gay, it comes from people like you who have nothing better to do than put down people that are different. It's the same thing with autism-- depression and anxiety are common co-morbids but autism doesn't create those issues, the way others treat said autistic does.

A few small studies say people worth ASD are more likely to have gender dysphoria so I wonder if that could translate to sexual orientation as well.

Here's more about ASD and gender dysphoria:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-red-light-district/201411/link-between-autism-and-gender-dysphoria