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22 Feb 2016, 2:28 pm

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Nick Rhodes apparently uses this now, 4 or more of these to be exact. Seen him with Duran Duran on Youtube live concert. There is a video of him demonstrating that synth. I don't like the sound much, personally, and there's no dial wheel only those back and forth buttons which take time to scroll through.

This video right? Yes, he is very rich so he can get anything he wants lol ..


JD-XA is the first analog synth from Roland since JX-10, so its the return of Roland to analog after a very long time.. Its a very good synth, but I agree with you, I am not so impressed in the sound.. But I did get the JD-Xi which is the mini version, because its great as a portable Dancemusic Groovebox, but otherwise its sound just OK.. Actually I think its Digital Supernatural Engine has more impressive sounds than its Analog Engine.



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22 Feb 2016, 2:46 pm

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Jp-8000 is the most overrated synths. :x

The reason why JP-8000 became a popular Virtual Analog is because its User Interface is good, so many sliders and buttons, and ribbon controller.. But its sound is not the best I agree.. Although its SuperSaw Patch became so famous in Trance :lol:

I think the best sounding Virtual Analog synthesizer is the Yamaha AN1x, its better than JP-8000.
User Interface may not be the best, but the sound of a Yamaha AN1x is really quite excellent :)



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22 Feb 2016, 4:08 pm

New Roland keyboards may not be as exciting as the original Jupiters and Junos, but it looks like Roland has really come back to analog.. Long ago they made the System-700 and System-100 Modular Analog synths..

Now Roland released a new 100% Modular Analog synth, System-500. Its sounds great, just like a vintage synth :)



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23 Feb 2016, 3:35 am

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As strange as it may seem, I've actually kinda wanted to get a Yamaha PSS-470. Yes, it's a kids' keyboard with miniature keys, BUT not only does it have the famous YM3812 FM synthesis chip at its core (aka the OPL2; this was found at the core of the original Adlib PC sound card as well as every Soundblaster before the Pro 2.0), it also has tactile sliders for programming FM synth sounds. This is a good video on it:

To sum it up, it's a digital synth keyboard with sliders that sounds like an old PC soundcard. :D Being a fan of old DOS games, this greatly appeals to me. The only thing I wish it had was MIDI support, but I'm sure there's a mod out there for it. ;)


I have the PSS-390 which came out a few months after PSS-470. They are both 2-operators FM synth, so sound is similar. There is a MIDI modification available for PSS series. Although I have not put MIDI in my PSS-390. But they are available by this kit.
[youtube]http://www.highlyliquid.com/#umr2[/youtube]

2 operator with sine, 4 operator with sine, 6 operator with sine, and 4 operator with more than sine, they are all Yamaha FM synth engine, but each has a different sound from each other. You should try one of each, then you can enjoy the wide range of FM sound menu.

Maybe if I get my hands on an old PC with a Soundblaster 16, I could learn how to use Adlib Tracker II to compile OPL3 tunes. An OPL3 is basically two YM3812s combined into one chip, and it can do some pretty awesome stuff. Just listen to this!


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23 Feb 2016, 10:11 am

I just saw this documentary on modular synths:
http://www.idreamofwires.org/

Now I want a Buchla.



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23 Feb 2016, 5:11 pm

Personally I think of analog synths as manual cars and Digital (esp PCM) as automatic cars.

Racers don't use automatic cars, and while there are quite a few good digital synths out there, and while I do understand the idea behind using analog warmness with digital complexity editing personally I would just take 2 keyboards with me, one analog and one digital. I'd rather have dedicated keyboards to each task, since a keyboardist can't be pleased with one board only like a guitarist would like several types of guitars. So, yeah. Instead of 4 JDXA I might opt for JUP-6, DX7II, FA-06 and a KX5 Keytar for funzies. All which I actually own.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:45 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Maybe if I get my hands on an old PC with a Soundblaster 16, I could learn how to use Adlib Tracker II to compile OPL3 tunes. An OPL3 is basically two YM3812s combined into one chip, and it can do some pretty awesome stuff. Just listen to this!
Hey, that sounds really good. You should try it.

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I just saw this documentary on modular synths:
http://www.idreamofwires.org/
Now I want a Buchla.
Modular is great fun, but it needs space, and more money, especially Buchla :) But if you don't have such a problem, definitely do it.

Chummy wrote:
Personally I think of analog synths as manual cars and Digital (esp PCM) as automatic cars. Racers don't use automatic cars, and while there are quite a few good digital synths out there, and while I do understand the idea behind using analog warmness with digital complexity editing personally I would just take 2 keyboards with me, one analog and one digital. I'd rather have dedicated keyboards to each task, since a keyboardist can't be pleased with one board only like a guitarist would like several types of guitars. So, yeah. Instead of 4 JDXA I might opt for JUP-6, DX7II, FA-06 and a KX5 Keytar for funzies. All which I actually own.
Yes, it is a good idea to get one machine from each type of synthesis. But sometimes it is challenging to limit only one :wink:



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24 Feb 2016, 4:14 pm

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Now I want a Buchla.


I wanted the Buchla Music Easel when it came out, because it is perfect size and design, but cost is too expensive.



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24 Feb 2016, 4:28 pm

MannyBoo wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
Jp-8000 is the most overrated synths. :x

The reason why JP-8000 became a popular Virtual Analog is because its User Interface is good, so many sliders and buttons, and ribbon controller.. But its sound is not the best I agree.. Although its SuperSaw Patch became so famous in Trance :lol:

I think the best sounding Virtual Analog synthesizer is the Yamaha AN1x, its better than JP-8000.
User Interface may not be the best, but the sound of a Yamaha AN1x is really quite excellent :)


Yeah, I think Alphaville used that synth on the song 'Control.'


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24 Feb 2016, 4:38 pm

Best synth ever? PPG wave 2.3 ;)


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24 Feb 2016, 8:43 pm

Deltaville wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
Jp-8000 is the most overrated synths. :x

The reason why JP-8000 became a popular Virtual Analog is because its User Interface is good, so many sliders and buttons, and ribbon controller.. But its sound is not the best I agree.. Although its SuperSaw Patch became so famous in Trance :lol:

I think the best sounding Virtual Analog synthesizer is the Yamaha AN1x, its better than JP-8000.
User Interface may not be the best, but the sound of a Yamaha AN1x is really quite excellent :)


Yeah, I think Alphaville used that synth on the song 'Control.'
Yes, they did. :)


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Best synth ever? PPG wave 2.3 ;)

Well, if we say in the "Wavetable Synthesis" category, or in the "Hybrid Analog-Digital" category, then yes it is one of the top.. Although I think the Waldorf WAVE is probably the best, it is like PPG Wave 2.3 on steroids.. PPG later become Waldorf and continued Wavetable Synthesis until today's BLOFELD.. But Waldorf WAVE is rare and very expensive, like a Jupiter 8, so it is not affordable to most people, unless you are rich? :wink:



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25 Feb 2016, 12:22 am

As mentioned I own a PPG Wave 2.3. Love it to the core.

By the way, can you help me identify the synth used to play the melody line in this song? Really want to get it.

Starts at 0:18


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25 Feb 2016, 12:29 am

MannyBoo wrote:
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Now I want a Buchla.


I wanted the Buchla Music Easel when it came out, because it is perfect size and design, but cost is too expensive.

I like the ones without a keyboard.



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25 Feb 2016, 12:32 am

AspE wrote:
MannyBoo wrote:
AspE wrote:
Now I want a Buchla.


I wanted the Buchla Music Easel when it came out, because it is perfect size and design, but cost is too expensive.

I like the ones without a keyboard.


I think you would need a CV gate controller then.


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25 Feb 2016, 3:35 am

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By the way, can you help me identify the synth used to play the melody line in this song? Really want to get it.

At first I thought probably a Polivoks from 1982...


Or the Alisa-1377...


But smoother, so maybe 1980s Vermona Synth..?



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25 Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

MannyBoo wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
By the way, can you help me identify the synth used to play the melody line in this song? Really want to get it.

At first I thought probably a Polivoks from 1982...


Or the Alisa-1377...


But smoother, so maybe 1980s Vermona Synth..?


Thought it was a Polivok too, but I have second thoughts. It was made in Poland during the 80's so I guess it is probably it.


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