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03 Jul 2018, 11:10 am

Just saying women still have some road left to travel.

On a personal level, gender politics don't interest me.



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03 Jul 2018, 11:15 am

Women are much more prominent in areas traditionally in the “male domain” than, say, 30 years ago.

Many women are still abused by men, though.



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03 Jul 2018, 11:36 am

Some could say women are becoming more like men....to achieve equality, you become your oppressor.

Just things I've heard along my journey of life.



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03 Jul 2018, 12:29 pm

My guess is that girls and women and mean to each because everything is a competition to them or because they have something about themselves that they dislike or misunderstand. I have also learned that fear is a big one as well.



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03 Jul 2018, 3:43 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
My guess is that girls and women and mean to each because everything is a competition to them or because they have something about themselves that they dislike or misunderstand. I have also learned that fear is a big one as well.


Girls and women like to project their own faults and weaknesses on each other. Girls and women are definitely competitive with each other sometimes to the point of treating other girls and women like their archenemies.



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04 Jul 2018, 2:22 am

Fnord you did such a freaking good job at explaining social structures in the first reply, that's what i need O_O


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05 Jul 2018, 8:33 pm

Okkano wrote:
Fnord you did such a freaking good job at explaining social structures in the first reply, that's what i need O_O


I wholeheartedly agree. Thanks for explaining that in depth Fnord.

I've definitely noticed this myself in children even younger then 4. My younger sister is even excluded in her Sunday School class by some other mean girls her age that are very socially aggressive. She has expressed that she no longer wants to play with them or have them at her birthday party because of this social exclusion. You'd think that children at Sunday School might not be as intent on isolating others and gaining social status, but, to put it how my seventh grade history teacher taught us, no place is excluded from gossip, cruelty, and social games, including church.

I never understood why I was excluded so much either, or even why I am excluded now. I just assume that I do not have as high a social status like they do and that people are at an age now where they will do anything to fit in and be accepted socially/gain social status. Also, some people are just downright mean, male or female. I wish that this kind of cruel behavior didn't exist either. I still don't understand the purpose, because there isn't any.


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05 Jul 2018, 8:54 pm

I was excluded socially-----even in my "special school" for kids with all sorts of disabilities.



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06 Jul 2018, 9:24 am

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
Okkano wrote:
Fnord you did such a freaking good job at explaining social structures in the first reply, that's what i need O_O


I wholeheartedly agree. Thanks for explaining that in depth Fnord.

I've definitely noticed this myself in children even younger then 4. My younger sister is even excluded in her Sunday School class by some other mean girls her age that are very socially aggressive. She has expressed that she no longer wants to play with them or have them at her birthday party because of this social exclusion. You'd think that children at Sunday School might not be as intent on isolating others and gaining social status, but, to put it how my seventh grade history teacher taught us, no place is excluded from gossip, cruelty, and social games, including church.

I never understood why I was excluded so much either, or even why I am excluded now. I just assume that I do not have as high a social status like they do and that people are at an age now where they will do anything to fit in and be accepted socially/gain social status. Also, some people are just downright mean, male or female. I wish that this kind of cruel behavior didn't exist either. I still don't understand the purpose, because there isn't any.


I had those problems with churches too when I was growing up. So called "Christians" are often the worst offenders when it comes to social aggression. I hated church when I was a kid because I thought the adults and the children were stuck up snobs. It pisses me off that there are parents that raise their kids this way. Kids see who their parents set up play dates with and the kids act accordingly.



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06 Jul 2018, 10:18 am

And we were made in God's image? I have problems with that theology.



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07 Jul 2018, 9:28 pm

I believe the reason why girls can be so mean to each other is to make themselves feel better after some sort of hurt. That's the reason why bullying can spread like the plague. I was one of those people who was often excluded for being a bit awkward. I started seeing mean girl behavior in 5th grade, but it was mainly in the form of exclusion without malicious intentions. Generally, when a mean girl gets hurt by something, she will often find someone else to blame to make herself feel better. Bullying someone gives the girl a sense of power and authority, which she uses to cover up an insecurity. I'm sorry to say that it is just natural human behavior.


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