How Oblivious Are You?

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Oh that drives me mad too. Money is not the be all and end all of life. Even though we seem to be living in an extreme capitalist society right now, it's not real. What about love, beauty, making things, entertaining, nurturing, teaching, community- all those things which are important too?

Just because you make a thing that entertains and helps others, it's not less valuable because you don't earn money from it. You are contributing to life and humanity in other ways.

Yes, if she loses her temper or is too frightened she will scream and fight.

She and I have decided to go to self defence classes thanks to this discussion!

Sometimes, merely existing as an autistic person can piss people off.

Do you have social anxiety? That can make a person worry about what others think excessively (as well as any performance of socialising).

My mental health has always suffered because of the constant pressure that our curiosity and creativity should have a goal or purpose, as if all of our thoughts and acts should somehow redeem themselves or be tossed into the “whimsical and worthless” bin. This despite the fact I have had a couple of businesses based on products that came out of, as you said, the innocent question “But what if we do it THIS way, instead of the way we've always done it?”.

Why is it so hard to be your own advocate and shake off all the negativity and pressure to conform?

I mean, my brain knows what’s up, but for some reason my heart just doesn’t get it.

You know in one of those towers there was an American cousin of mine.

A manager.

She was saved.

I was watching TV at that exact moment, in our house it was around 2pm and 4pm, if I remember correctly.

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It was all so strange.


I didn't imagine that two planes would be able to pass without interdiction by fighters.

I didn't understand why they hadn't shot them down after calls to divert and land elsewhere.

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I saw New York and thought of unaware people who were working or passing by.

I didn't imagine that two such fragile planes could even escape from the Twin Towers.

It was so absurd.

A few days ago I was traveling and I saw my Ryan Air plane so fragile in its materials...

I was thinking about the people below but not about something so strange.

It's beyond my knowledge of physics.


Talk about blowout.

I also saw something else (the Pentagon took the images that they then removed, for national security)...

I thought they had undermined every floor, because the towers collapsed as if in an implosion.
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The voices of incredulous people could be heard nearby.

As a family we hoped nothing so terrifying would happen.

We thought the front part of the planes would break on impact and we were afraid for the people under the towers.

And toxic fumes.

So fires but outside things went differently.
His colleges and friends are no longer there.

She and her brother were very tall. The father worked for the Court, I don't remember the mother.
She is Sicilian, blue eyes, 180, blonde. Her husband was a policeman over 19 before becoming an American citizen... they also saw their dreams collapse.

They were saved from those criminal actions, and then died one after the other of cancer.

She was so beautiful and intelligent.

Him too, and they were very tall, I remember him being over 2 meters tall.

She's a little less tall. Such nice people...

They were older than me.

I only saw them for summer holidays.

Their faces are imprinted in my memory.

Oh goals and purposes, argh! Why? Why do we need a goal and purpose? Why can't we do things just for the fun of it?

Humans are naturally curious, rebellious, we think at tangents. That needs to be encouraged, not squashed, or we will all end up as drones. That's probably what governments want however- a population of obedient drones!

I set myself a goal over the last 18 months. A goal that makes zero sense to anyone else. I needed to get myself through a couple of years of dull, boring, lonely times. So I set a goal of finishing all my fanfiction WIPs. I wrote/re-edited over 200K of fanfiction in 18 months!

'What is the point of that?' people will ask. 'You won't earn any money or achieve anything concrete.'

But IIII set the goal. IIII achieved the goal. For ME. And I'm bloody proud of myself and it got me through bad times.

My boss, who was a very nice individual, was always wondering why I was spending time on stuff that was not related to a project. It was because I was wondering "Is it possible? Is this to that something I'm capable of doing?" Sometimes they would be useful in solving a problem, although not immediately. One thing I was working on I described at a meeting and one of my coworkers said "That's A.I.!" I thought "Is it?" When my son started working with A.I., several years later, I understood what my coworker was talking about. I was just trying to find a solution for when physician names were documented differently in documents and the document did not have any other identifier. It wasn't perfect and the algorithm was not perfect, but it work much of the time. My very nice boss did not always seem to have much faith in my work. On the other hand he did tend to give me the most difficult interfaces. Interfaces where there had to be something "magical" to connect data in one system to another system. Those are another story, another thread.

Now that I'm retired, I'm oblivious to what I'm oblivious to.

To me creativity is such an important topic. It was relatively recent when humans could not survive without their creativity, and yet now it is somehow considered a luxury that we can do without it to the point we actually discourage it? That not only seems wrong and shortsighted, it seems to be a stance against life itself.
Or perhaps I am being over dramatic?

That is fantastic.

What is the point of it? What if there is NO point? Can we live with things don't make sense and be ok with that, or maybe even love that they don't make sense? Children can...

I have to keep reminding myself that.

One of the important points is that we are ignorant of too many things.

We tend to see things only from our point of view.

We don't have choice "B", but only choice "A".

So the mischievous vision is missing, the social one is missing, the one that we have never learned because no one taught us how to do it is missing.

Three thousand details are missing that the NT have *Spontaneously * in them, we don't have them.


Generally we don't expect behavior.

One defense could be to not give a damn about what others *knowingly* do.


Then go our way.

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In some things our mind is in fact very different and being different it definitely includes many forms of intelligence that are NOT codifiable in any way.

Just think of *Under Intelligence*.

They cannot be classified, they are not called that because they are inferior, but only because they are not statistically appreciable.

An Asperger here wrote that in his opinion without our Autistic minds the world would still be in the Stone Age and we would still be using the club.

I agree.


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NTs actually can't go beyond a certain IQ, but they really can't.

Some people among us do.


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The discussion on AI it is complex, and as Elon Musk thinks it should be very contained.

Elon Musk doesn't seem like Nt to me.


Just like Steve Jobs, Alan Turing, Da Vinci ,Maiorana, Pitagora. Wittgentstein, Tesla, Einstein, Mozart,Olivetti ,Srinivasa Aiyangar Ramanujan , Montessori, Montalcini,Maria Salomea Skłodowska, ... and many other thinkers and achievers of all time.

*Important concept: those of us who are more skilled * concentrate and implement innovative ideas*


We are not just "suffering from Autism".

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Everything is structured for the minds often far inferior to the special minds of some who came before us.

And they were autistic.

We are not just as problematic as they want us to be.

We are different.

And luckily they are.

Then notice one thing: the dysfunctional manuals are written and have Neurotypical subjects as terms of comparison.

Are we sure they are Normal?

The concept of normals is invented.

Around the 18th century.

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Question: Would we be dysfunctional if the whole world was populated with people *ND only?

That sounds like a worthwhile occupation tbh- I thought most humans were like that e.g. Leonardo Da Vinci, wondering what was possible and if he could do it.

Maybe most humans aren't like that and/or they've been brainwashed to be sheep, following the herd.

I agree. That doesn't sound over dramatic. In the past, humans had to be creative just to survive every day. Now we can get whatever we want at the click of a button, it's making us dull witted.

Thank you. And also, my fanfic is about tiny fandoms, not the big popular ones. I even invented a fandom of my own with my one story in it I also don't like the popular characters, I tend to like the oddballs, the unpopular minor characters on the side-lines. I suppose similar to myself in real life?

I think maybe because the world doesn't make sense at the moment, people need their hobbies to make sense. When the world used to make sense, we needed hobbies to be free of the daily grind.

We definitely have forms of intelligence that aren't appreciated or measured.

I think autism is just a different operating system to NT people. They are Microsoft, we are Apple Mac. Or something.

You know Kitlily, I think there's some sort of cut-off.

An autistic person surpasses him in IQ.

NT's IQ is in range.

That of the ND is not only in the range, but touches and often intersects with other amnesties of intelligence.

That is, to overcome a high level, and make it very high, more skills are needed:

An ND has them.

Not an NT.


CHe is based only on mathematical logical IQ.

But this has an immense limit.

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Your example about Mac and Windows, I understand, is an explanation.


But within us there exist various thought forms, which develop if trained.

And they are not the conventional ones.

Conventional ones limit .

Other unconventional forms of intelligence are like an augmented reality in us.

But not in all, some are in the range.

Others surpass it by a lot.


It must also be said that any IQ, even the highest, found in a human being is nothing more than its limit.

That is: it indicates our limit, and this is an aspect that not many people think about.

For now and not implemented a human being will have limitations.

A no more than what you think is exceptional, but when compared to the grandiose it is actually decidedly small.

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The short-term steps will be Cyborgs, and then self-aware robots, which have also been studied in Silicon Valley for over a decade.

Robots that think for themselves and reason within the framework of thought.

While even a highly gifted human being can only arrive at a somatic thought.

The Robots of an artificial intelligence can reason squarely and this infinitely.

QUadra by its square in an infinite succession.

We can't even if we're hybridized.

You know, I can give you two examples.
One was Leonardo Da Vinci as a child.

Maybe you've written about it.

He was the illegitimate son of a notary and his grandfather was a notary.

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At a certain point in his father's life who did not recognize him (he instead had humble origins on his mother's side)

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Father, his second wife and grandfather moved from the country of "Vinci" to Florence.

Leonardo could finally play and have fun and do what he wanted.

One of his uncles was 18 years old and didn't want to do anything concrete in life.


Except having fun and lazing around.


Instead, he was the most important person for Leonardo.

I teach him the art of lounging.


But Leonardo did it by observing nature.


Uncle had such a simple mind.
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The father returned after a long time to take Leonardo back, because he understood he was special.

He put him in the shop.

In practice Leonardo Da Vinci could do anything there.

And he did it perfectly.

So much so that he surpassed the master who never wanted to paint again.





The human mind has indispensability of these steps.


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A nice video you can find is a very nice Jacob Barnett on Ted TV (I think from 2010).

He is a USA genius.

He would like to refute Albert Einstein's theories, let's say he will perhaps never succeed.

However, he describes a one-year sabbatical taken against his will.

He was excluded from the university in the preliminaries because he was considered immature, I'm going from memory.

He used that year to make his brain work better.


Jacob Barnett is very nice.

I see myself when he talks fast and moves.

I think he had ADHD too, but unfortunately again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE