can ppl with AS br religious?

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irishmic
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15 Oct 2005, 11:21 pm

Actually Keev No!
Your statement does not clarify anything.
It leaves me befuddled.

I am attacking the premise that the truth can be known. If the truth is ultimately unknowable, how can we worship in it unless the word 'in' is used metaphorically implying a condition that again is unknowable.

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16 Oct 2005, 2:42 am

irismic

God does not emotionally appeal to us to worship Him.

God I believe, that God wants Us to worship Him in a unconditional way towards Him.

To me it is not the unknowable I seek. I seek it as Spiritual, to get to know God and God gets to know me.

I don't do this in a metaphoric way but try to in a literal way. In the best way I can.

I don't place conditions on myself to get to know God, God does not place conditions on Me.

I seek truth and the truth seeks Me. (It is a way of Living Life)

I try to worship in the truth, by living in the truth. (Very Hard to Do but I Try)

I hope this answers You questions.

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22 Oct 2005, 3:16 am

Keev, what you wrote is beautiful.
I have sent you a private message.

For a public response, I submit the following poem written by a modern saint of India Sri Aurobindo http://www.poetseers.org/the_poetseers/sri_aurobindo/selected_poems/i_have_a_hundred_lives/document_view

Quote:

I Have A Hundred Lives

I have a hundred lives before me yet
To grasp thee in, O Spirit ethereal,
Be sure I will with heart insatiate
Pursue thee like a hunter through them all.

Thou yet shalt turn back on the eternal way
And with awakened vision watch me come
Smiling a little at errors past and lay
Thy eager hand in mine, its proper home.

Meanwhile made happy by thy happiness
I shall approach thee in things and people dear,
And in thy spirit's motions half-possess,
Loving what thou hast loved, shall feel thee near,

Until I lay my hands on thee indeed
Somewhere among the stars, as 'twas decreed.
- Sri Aurobindo

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22 Oct 2005, 5:29 pm

for i am atheist i am convinced that aspies should be more likely to be not religious...

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23 Oct 2005, 8:25 pm

lenny77 wrote:

for i am atheist i am convinced that aspies should be more likely to be not religious...

It doesn't mean they can't be because there are plenty of religious aspies out there, even here at WP. Religion is a personal choice and no one else can make it for you. Each person is entitled to his or her own opinion in regards to this matter.

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24 Oct 2005, 5:40 am

Namiko wrote:

lenny77 wrote:

for i am atheist i am convinced that aspies should be more likely to be not religious...

i didnt said that my opinion is the only true one. the existence of religious aspis was quite disturbing to me, cause i didnt expected it! so now i dont think it has no effect to persuation if people are AS or NT.
i expected aspies would be more rational, but ive learned my lesson :cry:

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24 Oct 2005, 8:45 am

Uncommon, but there are still Christian aspies. There was another debate thread about this awhile ago, so I'll see if I can find it and post a link to it. People had a lot of good stuff to say on the topic, so maybe that would be a good read.

*goes off to find missing thread*

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25 Oct 2005, 3:31 pm

Ante wrote:

Amongst the famous people of the past with Autistic/Asperger's syndrome traits are:

Mark Twain, 1835-1910, US humorist
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950, Irish playwright, writer of Pygmalion, critic and Socialist
Friedrich Nietzsche, 1844-1900, German philosopher

There are those who were religious too but most of those were from earlier ages when religion was less questioned by science. I think, generally, most people with Asperger's syndrome by today will have accepted religion is nonsense and I really question whether people here who are Christians really do have Asperger's syndrome.

Bah, Every popular intelligent figure is now thought to have had AS. The sheer number of religious Aspies on this board proves your second point wrong as well.

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25 Oct 2005, 5:34 pm

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I really question whether people here who are Christians really do have Asperger's syndrome.

I was diagnosed by a doctor of Psychology, I took many tests for two days. When I got diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome I did not know anything about Aspergers myself. My Spiritual Beliefs are My Own, if that makes Me a Christian then I am a Christian then. You can doubt all You want, but You should not doubt even their diagnoses, and their Christianity.

Shame, Shame, on You.

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25 Oct 2005, 9:00 pm

Thagomizer wrote:

Ante wrote:

Bah, Every popular intelligent figure is now thought to have had AS. The sheer number of religious Aspies on this board proves your second point wrong as well.

Stellar point, sir! Stellar point!

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25 Oct 2005, 9:01 pm

Ante wrote:

Where is "atheism" mentioned as a symptom of AS? :roll:

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25 Oct 2005, 9:16 pm

Grievous, please check your PMs

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27 Oct 2005, 12:33 am

Checked. Would love to as I agree that it is difficult to find Aspie Christians. I have windows Messenger

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28 Oct 2005, 8:26 pm

Ante wrote:

I'm sorry for making out that Christians couldn't be Aspies. I did that in anger. I recognize it isn't true. In my mind I was thinking all Christians are corrupt liars but I know that is my own shortcoming to think that. It is my responsibility to have more faith in people.

I won't hold it against you. There's a lot of people in this world who think that way, whether they know about AS or not. Many people are naturally skeptical and you have a right to question the validity of what other people say.

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