The death and destruction oh the USA under DJT

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19 Mar 2025, 6:28 pm

As a reasonably wealthy transgender person in a deep blue state I can't say that things have gotten bad for me.
My investments are holding up reasonably well despite the gloom and doom on the News.

There are certainly states I won't visit due to onerous bathroom laws, but that was the case before the election.
These days, if I ask where to find the bathroom, they send me off to the ladies room.



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20 Mar 2025, 1:53 pm

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There's an argument to be made that a "poor person" or person of modest means that gets put up would be totally controlled by much more powerful handlers, and people would quickly see through this kind of thing as just being a mascot of sorts that was in completely out of his depth and being utterly controlled.


That reminds me of a certain dictator who is currently ruling the United States...


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20 Mar 2025, 6:36 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
Htaxu3 wrote:
There's an argument to be made that a "poor person" or person of modest means that gets put up would be totally controlled by much more powerful handlers, and people would quickly see through this kind of thing as just being a mascot of sorts that was in completely out of his depth and being utterly controlled.


That reminds me of a certain dictator who is currently ruling the United States...





The Princeton study of 2014 before Trump even entered politics showed that the USA was already an Oligarchy and a Democracy in-name-only. The arc of all this and trying to wrench power away from Trump and Elon Musk, just to give narrative-control back to the likes of someone like Adam Schiff who is going to be horrific and absurd is completely laughable and an utterly useless waste of time.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/16/The-US-is-not-a-democracy-but-an-oligarchy-study-concludes/2761397680051/

In Western woke oligarchic-"Democracies" though, I think the main concession they make to the outward appearance of "Democracy" is that at least in the USA they do change the leader/puppet at the top every 8 years or so, and they won't let it be the same fool at the top like Franco was in Spain for 35 years, so people won't say this outwardly that it's a "Dictatorship"... but fundamentally the structure of the corporation never changes and the scope like in the Obama-years that people had to actually disagree or dissent from anything going on structurally was extremely limited.

During the Obama years, the main difference between the two parties and what seemed to be the allowed scope of disagreement was over higher or lower taxes, and this seemed to basically be it, of what an "engaged citizen" could weigh in on substantively..... Anything else beyond this though outside of the realm of strictly-approved "issues" seemed to get a swift and sure reaction of shutting it down, like when Trump came along and started actually challenging the true nature of things, or when they allowed the Brexit vote that they later regretted permitting in the UK.



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22 Mar 2025, 11:38 am

Htaxu3 wrote:
There's an argument to be made that a "poor person" or person of modest means that gets put up would be totally controlled by much more powerful handlers, and people would quickly see through this kind of thing as just being a mascot of sorts that was in completely out of his depth and being utterly controlled.

By contrast, a president like FDR was completely financially independent and also considered at his time "a traitor to his class," for what he was doing. Not that it always happens that an Independently Wealthy president is going to behave like this, but I'd take the chances better on this than some controlled poor sap that get used like this in a narrative like this to run a "poor person" for this kind of image.


It happened several times as I recall back in the Middle Ages and early Renaissance that from time to time the Cardinals would elect to the Papacy a hermit or someone like this who was completely outside the system, and even might have been respected as an honourable and principled figure that was living their righteous values in a cave... but once they got elected it was fully clear they were just a tool and shield for the real and more powerful interests and families that just wanted to hide behind this and keep doing business-as-usual.

If the person of modest means is a longtime political activist (or, say, a labor union leader) with lots of grassroots support and lots of connections to other activists they can count on for support, then they can avoid being just a puppet of the wealthy.

Wealth isn't the only kind of power. Organization is power, too.


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22 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
Htaxu3 wrote:
There's an argument to be made that a "poor person" or person of modest means that gets put up would be totally controlled by much more powerful handlers, and people would quickly see through this kind of thing as just being a mascot of sorts that was in completely out of his depth and being utterly controlled.

By contrast, a president like FDR was completely financially independent and also considered at his time "a traitor to his class," for what he was doing. Not that it always happens that an Independently Wealthy president is going to behave like this, but I'd take the chances better on this than some controlled poor sap that get used like this in a narrative like this to run a "poor person" for this kind of image.


It happened several times as I recall back in the Middle Ages and early Renaissance that from time to time the Cardinals would elect to the Papacy a hermit or someone like this who was completely outside the system, and even might have been respected as an honourable and principled figure that was living their righteous values in a cave... but once they got elected it was fully clear they were just a tool and shield for the real and more powerful interests and families that just wanted to hide behind this and keep doing business-as-usual.

If the person of modest means is a longtime political activist (or, say, a labor union leader) with lots of grassroots support and lots of connections to other activists they can count on for support, then they can avoid being just a puppet of the wealthy.

Wealth isn't the only kind of power. Organization is power, too.





Could be - the problem is that the current Democrats are a total Deep-State goon-party for the Establishment, and that they will never allow it. It's been a very long time really since the USA has had anything like viable "trade unions" that are really dictating national policy at this level, unfortunately.

You just look at Barney Sanders' campaigns in 2016 and 2020 and the starts he got off to, and how quickly the Establishment was able to move on him like bishiops and rooks on a chessboard and quickly dispose of him.... Basically, what chance, really, does some kind of Jimmy Stewart goes to Washington kind of guy like this have at this point, against their eventual goon like Harris, who they didn't even allow a primary for ?


I will say though, I think the liberal parties in Europe back in the 80s and such and earlier like the Labour party in the UK in the 50s with Attlee were much more serious with social benefits and all this, to where they've held up much better going into the present..... where by contrast the Democrats in the USA are a complete joke and were a complete joke and were not serious back then, and this is why they're collapsing so badly now, as they don't even have the fumes to run in on on these feet of clay. The Democrats now are trying to be uber-woke but they don't even have the labor-union stuff of 40 or 50 years ago to be able to remotely pull off the feint, at this point.



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People who voted for Trump were hoping the leopards would only eat other people's faces, but if enough of them get their own faces eaten they might be forced to come around and bail on their cult.


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22 Mar 2025, 8:42 pm

Trump is well on his way to being considered a third rate player on the world stage with neither reputation nor credibility.

I suspect that at this point, it may be too late for him to save himself from being relegated to being a joke.



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22 Mar 2025, 8:44 pm

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People who voted for Trump were hoping the leopards would only eat other people's faces, but if enough of them get their own faces eaten they might be forced to come around and bail on their cult.




^ Absolutely hilarious and deluded..... the real cult in the West is liberals and BlueAnon. It's like Jehovah's Whitlesses or 7th Day Adventists or something at this point, but they think everyone agrees with their rapture narrative, that Trump and Elon are coming for every asset that they have..... (and then they're going to be completely blindsided and deluded when it doesn't happen).

It's like I said, the Democrats and the woke are fundamentally not popular, the vast majority of people hate their social engineering ideas and everything they say and their raving anti-Trump Lunacy, so they have to do this stupidty like bus their people an an Alinskyite way to Town Halls to shout and scream to try and get something going (but it's not going to happen)... I won't be surprised to see Republicans crush it even bigger in the Midterms.



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22 Mar 2025, 8:51 pm

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Htaxu3 is the woke in the room with us right now? :scratch:


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22 Mar 2025, 8:53 pm

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Htaxu3 is the woke in the room with us right now? :scratch:




I would say the engine is not woke, it has the Master and Slave cylinders... hahahaha.....


btw, it would make the Liberals' heads EXPLODE if they ever found about this nomenclature, but they are usually to be found far from any auto-mechanics courses, for sure... (LOL)



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22 Mar 2025, 8:58 pm

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I would say the engine is not woke, it has the Master and Slave cylinders... hahahaha.....


btw, it would make the Liberals' heads EXPLODE if they ever found about this nomenclature, but they are usually to be found far from any auto-mechanics courses, for sure... (LOL)


Are you new to the English language?



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22 Mar 2025, 9:01 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
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Htaxu3 is the woke in the room with us right now? :scratch:




I would say the engine is not woke, it has the Master and Slave cylinders... hahahaha.....


btw, it would make the Liberals' heads EXPLODE if they ever found about this nomenclature, but they are usually to be found far from any auto-mechanics courses, for sure... (LOL)


Engines don't typically have master or slave cylinders. Brake systems have master and slave cylinders, although updating that nomenclature wouldn't be problematic to most people except for a small handful of reactionaries who's heads would explode.


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22 Mar 2025, 9:54 pm

There are also master bedrooms, but there seems to be a push to do away with that name.



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