08 Jun 2023, 12:41 pm
08 Jun 2023, 2:00 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
I dont know for a fact that we celebrated Guy Fawkes Day, but I dont see why not.
He did his thing ---setting up the powder kegs in the basement of Parlaiment in 1605. And was hung for it in 1606...exactly one year before the founding of Jamestown in 1607 (the Pilgrims landed 12 years later at Plymouth). So all 13 of the original colonies (Georgia wasnt founded until 1732) came after Guy Fawkes was hung. And our colonists all thought of themselves as good loyal Englishment...so they all would have loved hating "the guy" as much the folks in the old country did I am sure. At least until...1775 when some of the colonists would begin to contemplate treason themselves!
Thats interesting that "geezer" traces back to "someone who puts on guises". So it originally would have been a "guiser". Pronounced the way Americans say "Geyser" (geothermal water fountain).
He did his thing ---setting up the powder kegs in the basement of Parlaiment in 1605. And was hung for it in 1606...exactly one year before the founding of Jamestown in 1607 (the Pilgrims landed 12 years later at Plymouth). So all 13 of the original colonies (Georgia wasnt founded until 1732) came after Guy Fawkes was hung. And our colonists all thought of themselves as good loyal Englishment...so they all would have loved hating "the guy" as much the folks in the old country did I am sure. At least until...1775 when some of the colonists would begin to contemplate treason themselves!
Thats interesting that "geezer" traces back to "someone who puts on guises". So it originally would have been a "guiser". Pronounced the way Americans say "Geyser" (geothermal water fountain).
So we should all say 'guiser' for all those words then!
08 Jun 2023, 2:02 pm
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if there was just one time that the Brits could repel and invading army, we'd have a language that actually make some sense. I'm pretty sure that "English Channel" is a mispronunciation of "Welcome mat." 
It's surely hard to defend a country that is totally bordered by sea though? We can't have soldiers on every coastline.
08 Jun 2023, 2:11 pm
Joe90 wrote:
My grandmother used to tell me that rhyme but I only always remember the first line.
At school we didn't seem to be taught the origins of the events we celebrate. Maybe because things got more PC and certain things weren't allowed to be taught in schools any more in case it offended someone. I think that's stupid though, because it does children more good to be aware of different historic events, as being unaware of these things is more likely to cause misunderstandings and could unintentionally offend people even more.
In school we didn't learn about the Holocaust or any other tragic things that had gone on.
At school we didn't seem to be taught the origins of the events we celebrate. Maybe because things got more PC and certain things weren't allowed to be taught in schools any more in case it offended someone. I think that's stupid though, because it does children more good to be aware of different historic events, as being unaware of these things is more likely to cause misunderstandings and could unintentionally offend people even more.
In school we didn't learn about the Holocaust or any other tragic things that had gone on.
That is quite odd because I worked in schools in the late 1990s to mid 2000s and the kids were definitely taught about the Holocaust and the trenches in WW1, for example. My daughter has just left school last year and she was taught about them.
I know schools go in fashions about teaching things, however.
For example, when I was at school in the 1970s and 80s, it was 'the fashion' not to teach kids about grammar and punctuation rules. We were supposed to 'pick it up as we went along.'
How bloody stupid is that!! So there is a whole Lost Generation of people my age who don't know grammar and punctuation! I had to teach myself.
09 Jun 2023, 6:27 am
Just to say I am really enjoying this discussion. There is nothing I like more than discussing the meaning and origin of words and country differences. 
09 Jun 2023, 7:30 am
09 Jun 2023, 10:15 am
09 Jun 2023, 10:23 am
naturalplastic wrote:
... Like how Brits and Aussies say "mate", or how American guys call each other "bub", or "bud", or "dude"..... So he was like Jeff Bridges in the Big Labowski. He was "the dude". Lol!
A very prominent British WP poster is in the habit of addressing other members as 'dude'.
09 Jun 2023, 10:47 am
DeepHour wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
... Like how Brits and Aussies say "mate", or how American guys call each other "bub", or "bud", or "dude"..... So he was like Jeff Bridges in the Big Labowski. He was "the dude". Lol!
A very prominent British WP poster is in the habit of addressing other members as 'dude'.
No to Americanisation! No, no and no!
09 Jun 2023, 3:53 pm
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