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16 Aug 2023, 4:25 am

Next time just do a thought experiment.

If it were "one person in two" what "percent" would that be?

It wouldnt be "two percent". It would be 50 percent. :D

And "one person in three" would be 33 1/3.... percent. And so on.



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16 Aug 2023, 4:27 am

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16 Aug 2023, 5:09 am

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So you have to cover up your failure by calling me a liar. Thanks a lot!


I gave you a couple of alternatives, but I suppose you go with "being dishonest". Maybe because you were? :-)

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One more thing. Your math is off. "One diagnosed person in 14" is not the same thing as "fourteen percent of diagnosed persons". "One out out of fourteen" would actually be around seven percent. And it's "one out of seven" that is about 14 percent. :lol:


How are your own math skills? 2/14 is 1/7 which is 14.2857%. I suggest you read the text again. :-)

Statistics from the last run indicates that 13 out of 98 that have an ASD diagnosis score as more typical than atypical (13%).If we use more than 95% probability of being NT (a score below 73), then only 3 out of 98 score as highly neurotypical (3%). Taken the other way, 62 out of 98 score more than 95% atypical (63%). I think these results are quite reasonable.



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16 Aug 2023, 3:09 pm

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naturalplastic wrote:
So you have to cover up your failure by calling me a liar. Thanks a lot!


I gave you a couple of alternatives, but I suppose you go with "being dishonest". Maybe because you were? :-)

naturalplastic wrote:
One more thing. Your math is off. "One diagnosed person in 14" is not the same thing as "fourteen percent of diagnosed persons". "One out out of fourteen" would actually be around seven percent. And it's "one out of seven" that is about 14 percent. :lol:


How are your own math skills? 2/14 is 1/7 which is 14.2857%. I suggest you read the text again. :-)

Statistics from the last run indicates that 13 out of 98 that have an ASD diagnosis score as more typical than atypical (13%).If we use more than 95% probability of being NT (a score below 73), then only 3 out of 98 score as highly neurotypical (3%). Taken the other way, 62 out of 98 score more than 95% atypical (63%). I think these results are quite reasonable.

Where did you say anything using the figure "two out of 14"?
At one point you said "one out of 14".

This is what you said:
One diagnosed person out of 14 that scores as highly neurotypical is not an anomaly. Another person also scores as more neurotypical than atypical, but this is not a problem either. That's 14% not getting their diagnosis confirmed, which is normal.
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In the first sentence you said one/14 diagnosed persons get a result counter to their diagnosis. In the second sentence you..wrote nonsense that conveys nothing at all. But I think that you meant to say something like "the opposite also happens and that some NTs get an autistic score", but you were in hurry and left some word out of the sentence. And you didnt give a number for this anomaly.

So...what you said was one/14 autistics score as non-autistic. But you may have meant that "one in fourteen of both autistics AND NTs get the opposite result of what they are told they are...or thought that they are". But if so then the magic number is still "one in 14" or "seven percent". You have a seven percent chance of getting told you're the opposite thing that you thought you were regardless of which thing you are.



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16 Aug 2023, 3:35 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
This is what you said:
One diagnosed person out of 14 that scores as highly neurotypical is not an anomaly. Another person also scores as more neurotypical than atypical, but this is not a problem either. That's 14% not getting their diagnosis confirmed, which is normal.
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In the first sentence you said one/14 diagnosed persons get a result counter to their diagnosis. In the second sentence you..wrote nonsense that conveys nothing at all. But I think that you meant to say something like "the opposite also happens and that some NTs get an autistic score", but you were in hurry and left some word out of the sentence. And you didnt give a number for this anomaly.


One person in the first sentence and another in the second results in 2 persons. That's 2 out of 14.

I defined not getting your diagnosis confirmed was the same as scoring typical, and two people that indicated diagnosis scored typical. Which is similar as the 13% that I described from a larger dataset.



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16 Aug 2023, 5:23 pm

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Some neurotypics could relate to these traits about trends and pop culture.
I know typical autistic people in my country who have become interested in fashion to "fit in" and a man whose stylist is his profession ( he was diagnosed at the age of 8 ) in a fashion house.
He had a good career because he left the classical school system early enough to join specialized institutions and he didn't think he would make it.


Some NTs will have some of those traits, but they are far more prevalent in autism. There are also NTs who have issues with eye contact (not severe, though) which is why YouTube is full of vids on how to do eye contact -- very popular subject and they get tons of views. So, I think it's just a matter of prevalence. An autistic is likely to tick off at least five of those traits, while a bunch of NTs may tick one, maybe two, and ANY one or two at that.



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17 Aug 2023, 2:00 am

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I think I should test these variants:

Do you dislike pop culture?
Do you like 'being in style'?
Do you jump onto the latest trends?
Do you wear things that are comfortable regardless if they are in style or not?


None of these have the same relevance as the original items. Disliking pop culture still links to typical communication problems and so does wearing things that are comfortable. I think this shows that few people actually decide they dislike pop culture or trends, rather it's mostly a consequence of not understanding them.

Being in style and jumping onto the latest trends links to typical relationship traits, and thus to dating. I think that makes a bit of sense. Even if most of the typical relationship traits have rather small differences between typical & atypical people, these new traits still doesn't qualify.



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17 Aug 2023, 8:03 am

Changed the boarder line between typical social and relationships again, and now the groups are better balanced. Hopefully, this is the final change. Still, it's an advantage that the new software tools I have written makes it a lot easier to create a new version. The grouping tool also seems to work a lot better and suggests better groups, even if it is still a lot of work to figure out the best groups.



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26 Aug 2023, 10:38 pm

Tú puntuación: 160 de 200

Have 100% probability of being outlier. (Autist/ Neurodiverso).

I don't know how to deal with it, I entered here because I have doubts about whether I am autistic or not



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28 Aug 2023, 8:45 am

Oooooo, so neat!! TY.

Friendly Teasing: Suggested question: "Please enter the number of questions you answered "NO" because you do something similar but not 100% exactly that way" --- for multiplicative factor of extra points!! !! !! !! :wink: :D The first time I took the test I answered so literally I scored fairly low. Now I answer less literally, but it's painful and I feel uncomfortable (every time). So perhaps there could be a direction to answer affirmatively for similar circumstances (so I don't feel like I'm cheating) or expanded questions. Wait --- is that in the directions? I don't read them because bold print panics me. I need the sensory/GAD-friendly link (only one or two items bolded or underlined --- up to 10 items italicized). :D

My results:
Version 5 (yesterday)
Your score: 121 of 200
90% probability of being atypical

Verion 4 (2021)
Your broader autism cluster (Aspie) score: 122 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 93 of 200
You have both broader autism cluster and neurotypical traits

My self-reporting is awful. I didn't know I rocked and stimmed until AFTER I was diagnosed and started paying attention to myself. I didn't know I had severe anxiety and panic attacks until recently when it was explained to me that my daily physical and mental condition is not "normal" (it's natural for me). I still have a hard time answering affirmatively to questions that are generally but not specifically (literally) true for me.

"Do you tap your ears..." --- NO. But "Yes" because I rub my earlobes or smell or twirl my hair, but I don't "tap". But I know that's similar enough, right? OMG don't crush me for lying! Joking---and totally NOT joking.

"...twirl your fingers" NO. But "Yes" because I twirl a pen or doodle (and bite my nails). Oh, and I probably do all the other things to but find it natural or normal so am not aware.

My problem is it's about how "appropriate" (or not) I am. I can do these things, but it's social unacceptable. So perhaps the questions could ask about socially-acceptableness?

"Do you a hard time getting other people's attention when you're in a group?" --- NO, I can get people's attention!! !! But it's "wrong"... again.

"Do you find it natural to wave or say 'hi' when you meet people?" YES, I wave enthusiastically and with great passion. Which is "wrong"... again.

"Do you enjoy travel?" YES!! !! Are you terrified of travel and panic and have meltdowns? YES!! !! I am a sensory-seeking, sensory-overloaded type.

"Have you been accused of staring?" NO, but women are more often shunned than "accused". I stare ALL the time and I know it's "wrong". I couldn't bring myself to answer this one "Yes" b/c my variance seemed to be too far from the question. It's the question that resonates most strongly with gender identify for me. Second to that was the question about "irritable" - I tend feel uncomfortable (scared and helpless) rather than irritable.

"Do you have a monotonous voice?" NO. What about those of us who are overly expressive? I find so often that ASD is the extremes, or lack of modulation.

Thank you so much for the test run. :)



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07 Oct 2023, 12:05 am

116 out of 200, 84% probability of being atypical


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RAADs: 104 | ASQ: 30 | CAT-Q: 139 | Aspie Quiz: 116/200 (84% probability of being atypical)

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07 Oct 2023, 5:44 pm

Your score: 125 of 200
94% probability of being atypical (autistic/neurodiverse)

Diagnosed ASD level 2, iADHD, Anxiety/Depression



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07 Oct 2023, 5:58 pm

DirkGently69 wrote:
Your score: 125 of 200
94% probability of being atypical (autistic/neurodiverse)

Diagnosed ASD level 2, iADHD, Anxiety/Depression


Dirk Gently?

Are you a "holistic detective"? :lol:



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07 Oct 2023, 8:50 pm

Similar results. Except on the relationship axis. Although looking at the pdf breakout of scores, I see where I apparently reversed my 0 (no) and my 2 (yes) a few times. I guess I need to take it again more carefully

Your score: 143 of 200
99% probability of being atypical (autistic/neurodiverse)

previous score:

Your broader autism cluster (Aspie) score: 139 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 60 of 200
You are very likely on the broader autism cluster (Aspie)

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Broader autism cluster (Aspie) score: 139 of 200 Your neurotypical score: 60 of 200
Aspie Quiz (v5) 155 of 200 .. AQ 48 . Detailed Aspie Quotient for adults 1,540 out of 2,200 (70%)
RAADS-R Total 192 of 240 Social Problems 91 Circumscribed Interests 42 Language 19 Sensory Motor 40
Meyer-Briggs: INTP Comorbidities: Narcolepsy, NFLE, Alexithemia, Dyspraxia, Prosopagnosia, Anomia, IBS
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07 Oct 2023, 9:36 pm

Retook as explained above, and got a screen that said You have answered inconsistently on too many control-questions

Umm, ok.


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Broader autism cluster (Aspie) score: 139 of 200 Your neurotypical score: 60 of 200
Aspie Quiz (v5) 155 of 200 .. AQ 48 . Detailed Aspie Quotient for adults 1,540 out of 2,200 (70%)
RAADS-R Total 192 of 240 Social Problems 91 Circumscribed Interests 42 Language 19 Sensory Motor 40
Meyer-Briggs: INTP Comorbidities: Narcolepsy, NFLE, Alexithemia, Dyspraxia, Prosopagnosia, Anomia, IBS
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07 Oct 2023, 10:33 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
DirkGently69 wrote:
Your score: 125 of 200
94% probability of being atypical (autistic/neurodiverse)

Diagnosed ASD level 2, iADHD, Anxiety/Depression


Dirk Gently?

Are you a "holistic detective"? :lol:

If I was going to be a detective, I would like to be one that takes everything into account :D