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26 Sep 2024, 10:34 pm

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Yeah, i'm sure a socially challenged woman like him whom i described, for all time, has an easier chance of getting into a relationship than the other way around, obviously.


My daughter is very keen on getting a partner but scares men away. I'm not complaining.



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26 Sep 2024, 10:44 pm

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So in the industrial revolution, is was not unheard of for lots of men to remain lifelong bachelors, never have any relationships?


In the Victorian era the spread of prostitution throughout the industrialised world was so widespread that it was not really necessary to settle down to find female companionship.



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26 Sep 2024, 11:51 pm

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So in the industrial revolution, is was not unheard of for lots of men to remain lifelong bachelors, never have any relationships?


Confirmed bachelor was often a euphemism for homosexual.


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28 Sep 2024, 9:47 am

yeah, and i believe the genetic research that says that we have twice as many women ancestors as men ancestors



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28 Sep 2024, 9:28 pm

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WantToHaveALife wrote:
So in the industrial revolution, is was not unheard of for lots of men to remain lifelong bachelors, never have any relationships?


In the Victorian era the spread of prostitution throughout the industrialised world was so widespread that it was not really necessary to settle down to find female companionship.


Companionship includes a lot more than just sex.


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28 Sep 2024, 9:30 pm

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yeah, and i believe the genetic research that says that we have twice as many women ancestors as men ancestors


Explain how that works.


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28 Sep 2024, 9:41 pm

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
So in the industrial revolution, is was not unheard of for lots of men to remain lifelong bachelors, never have any relationships?


In the Victorian era the spread of prostitution throughout the industrialised world was so widespread that it was not really necessary to settle down to find female companionship.


Companionship includes a lot more than just sex.


But sex is a major component of love and companionship



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29 Sep 2024, 3:11 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
So in the industrial revolution, is was not unheard of for lots of men to remain lifelong bachelors, never have any relationships?


In the Victorian era the spread of prostitution throughout the industrialised world was so widespread that it was not really necessary to settle down to find female companionship.


Companionship includes a lot more than just sex.


In industrial England (and colonial Australia) culture for unmarried working men revolved pubs and bars.

In 2024 you walk into a pub or bar, they are sterile boring places 9-5pm full of old men playing the horses or watching football. At night they are loud and full of cigarette smoke and full of pretentious young people.

In 1824 Australian and British bar culture (and maybe cowboy towns in the old west of America) was a place where single unmarried men could meet each other as there was no internet or tv back then. there was comaraderie, drinks and maidens aplenty. Companionship meant having a drink with a bar girl and chatting her up. there was no obligation to sleep with her (you could pay of course) but everyone knew each other including the bar girls who knew the regular punters.

Ironically this type of bygone culture has been resurrected in bars in south east Asia. But for our countries it's relegated to the history books.



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29 Sep 2024, 7:26 pm

i refuse to call my last partner an ex-girlfriend since there was no intimacy involved, i refer to her as an ex-friend, not an ex-girlfriend.



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30 Sep 2024, 5:14 pm

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i refuse to call my last partner an ex-girlfriend since there was no intimacy involved, i refer to her as an ex-friend, not an ex-girlfriend.


Interesting! in that case I've had a lot of ex-friends.



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07 Oct 2024, 10:57 am

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Perhaps, some people aren't meant to have partners.


Some people don't get dealt a very good genetic hand at birth. Other's do.


for example, people that were born premature as a baby, premature babies are able to survive today thanks to modern medicine, hundreds of years ago, that would not have been possible, sadly reminds me of a black autistic man i'm in contact with, he told me he was born premature as a baby, quite early, and i like to think, believe, that also has contributed to his mental and social state, he is kinda slow at understanding things, based on how he has spoken to me.

I also can't help but feel sorry for him because of a traumatic experience that happend to him back when he was in college, i wasn't there, so its difficult for me to assess what he did wrong, and of course i know i'm not the best socially-wise either, but i feel this incident that happend to him was because of him doing very poorly in social situations, not understanding boundaries or very poor social skills.

He told me that a girl and her guy friends filed a restraining order on him and he was labeled a creepy stalker by the the whole college.

To no shock, to no surprise, he has never had a GF before and never kissed a girl before either. A lot of people will think, people like him, were just a mistake by nature, since he was born premature as a baby, nature did not intend for him to survive, he is only alive thanks to modern medicine.


Even people born full term today with congenital defects or poor immune systems live when they probably would have died during the first year of life in the past. Modern medicine has woven miracles but it has messed with natural selection as well, unless you consider medicine part of the selection process



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08 Oct 2024, 12:05 am

another thing that is very cruel about nature, is that, even people that are born with certain disabilities or mental/physical conditions, birth defects, special needs, those people still have the natural instinctive/innate desire for wanting relationships, not wanting to be alone, wanting a mate, etc., yet obviously their condition is going to make it much more difficult than those who were born normal.



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08 Oct 2024, 10:01 am

^that is what makes it hard for us!! !

It is VERY easy for neuro-typicals to date and get married compared to neuro-divergents!



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08 Oct 2024, 1:15 pm

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^that is what makes it hard for us!! !

It is VERY easy for neuro-typicals to date and get married compared to neuro-divergents!



Should I just kill myself now then?

35 still a virgin and never had a proper GF :(



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08 Oct 2024, 3:28 pm

I'd hate it if you killed yourself mate


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08 Oct 2024, 3:33 pm

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I'd hate it if you killed yourself mate



Miserable lonely life though being without a partner.

But hey I guess there is always masterbation :roll: