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Paddy789
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14 Aug 2008, 2:29 am

Depeche mode are emo? Are you on drugs?



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14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm

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Depeche mode are emo? Are you on drugs?



I believe Depeche Mode is Alternative and New Wave. However everyone says Depeche Mode is emo.



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14 Aug 2008, 1:01 pm

gamefreak wrote:
Paddy789 wrote:
Depeche mode are emo? Are you on drugs?



I believe Depeche Mode is Alternative and New Wave. However everyone says Depeche Mode is emo.


who says they're emo? were any of these people actually alive when depeche mode released most of their work? lol



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14 Aug 2008, 1:17 pm

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Hey, The Cure and Depeche Mode are considered emo.


...who by?



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14 Aug 2008, 5:06 pm

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Hey, The Cure and Depeche Mode are considered emo music and their awesome.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

don't kid yourself.
Both are classic alternative rock bands.
They certainly influenced the genre but there's NO WAY they're emo. Let's take The Cure: Even the darkest Cure songs ("Siamese Twins", "All Cats Are Grey", "The Funeral Party", "One Hundred Years") aren't emo. And how can you call a band emo who make songs like "Let's Go To Bed", "Mint Car", "Close to Me" or "The Only One"?


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14 Aug 2008, 5:54 pm

I always thought Depeche mode was cold and unemotional in some of their stuff really.



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14 Aug 2008, 11:41 pm

my chemical romance is emo now? back in my day the red house painters typified the emo sound.

but then, back in my day emos weren't extra-whiney goths, and they wore tight sweaters and silly glasses.

i used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. now, what i'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me. get off my lawn!


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15 Aug 2008, 5:36 am

gamefreak wrote:
Paddy789 wrote:
Depeche mode are emo? Are you on drugs?



I believe Depeche Mode is Alternative and New Wave. However everyone says Depeche Mode is emo.
this my friend is because allot of people take terms like emo and apply them to everything that might fit their vague misunderstood interpretation of that term

as we have seen ITT death metal gets similar treatment

to most of the people who use it emo means overly emotional or sad music

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i'd never really have that problem, as my opinion on music is based on about 80% crap i make up on the spot, and 20% emotional or soul...so if someone disagrees on my opinion on music i'll be able to talk until they give up and leave ^.^

and i don't respect much of the human race, especially when it comes to their musical opinons, i see them as sheep who listen to whatever the damned record companies tell them to instead of what i tell them to.

this is why i try not to talk about music to people who dont agree with me....i keep that kind of informed discussion for my close group of musician friends.

[meaningless tag i dont like the sound of] music is harmonically, timbrally and rhythmically dull, also it smells bad and i head they are all pedophiles. at least punk had energy.

so there we go, feel free to call me an elitist idiot if you want, but at least i preempted and laughed at your criticism so if you do ill have been laughing at you...haha

i loled

EDIT: ok that was too harsh, you probably do know what your talking about but you sound like a dumbass (as i know i often do)


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15 Aug 2008, 6:34 am

I'd try to distinguish "emo" from "sad music" really. Some may not agree with the terms, but this is what I think:

Emo = teenage whinging/angst about the silliest of things, ie. breaking up or "dumb parents". Watered-down pop-punk for clueless teens of today. Highly pretentious in the fact it's usually over-dramatic.
Sad music = The sorrow and emotion is there, but without the whingy crying teenagerness to it, ie. depression without the pretentious dramatic feel to it. Some people would call this "real emo" but I'd rather not use "emo" for them.



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15 Aug 2008, 7:42 am

HAHAHA. Yeah, cause none of the great artists every wrote about anything so trivial as 'breaking up.'



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15 Aug 2008, 11:07 am

Oh gawd, I go away for a week and people are STILL arguing about what emo is? Not even new bits of argument, BUT ARGUING OVER THE SAME POINTS? Come on. Jeez.
To digress again though, @Xanderbeanz - Although I can see where you're coming from with your argument about 'emo' being harmonically, timbrally and rhythmically dull, and to an extent I would agree with you, but I really cannot see where you're coming from with your argument that musical merit is based on its complexity and playmanship. Sure, I hate music that is most obviously lazily written, produced or played, but even if, say, Aphex Twin wrote a symphony, if it cannot garner an emotional response within the listener, then really, what's the point of it? Music is a form of art, and as somebody once said, music without a soul is merely mathematics. Sure, the complexity and accomplishment in a piece of music can itself garner that emotional response to certain people, such as, I assume, yourself, but in doing so, then it becomes subjective, as you really cannot say your emotional response is more valid than anybody else's, and your discussions and opinions are no more 'informed' than the masses of pop-buying sheep that you seem to consider yourself to be better informed than.
On a more friendly note, I'd absolutely love to hear you abusing a DX7, that sounds awesome :D I do love some old-school FM sounds!



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16 Aug 2008, 12:25 pm

Why I know Depeche Mode isn't sad music. Even the "Black Celebration" Album was kind of serious but not cold.



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16 Aug 2008, 4:54 pm

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as you really cannot say your emotional response is more valid than anybody else's, and your discussions and opinions are no more 'informed' than the masses of pop-buying sheep that you seem to consider yourself to be better informed than.


i can, but then again, i'm a complete twat ^.^ x



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18 Aug 2008, 12:12 pm

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as you really cannot say your emotional response is more valid than anybody else's, and your discussions and opinions are no more 'informed' than the masses of pop-buying sheep that you seem to consider yourself to be better informed than.


i can, but then again, i'm a complete twat ^.^ x


No, it's not that you're a complete twat, just that you're doing so without any proper validity or justification.



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18 Aug 2008, 2:10 pm

RogueProcess wrote:
Xanderbeanz wrote:
RogueProcess wrote:
as you really cannot say your emotional response is more valid than anybody else's, and your discussions and opinions are no more 'informed' than the masses of pop-buying sheep that you seem to consider yourself to be better informed than.


i can, but then again, i'm a complete twat ^.^ x


No, it's not that you're a complete twat, just that you're doing so without any proper validity or justification.


yeah, i know, playing 12 instruments, being able to fake any instrument i can't play in cubase to undetectable levels, being able to mix, produce, sing, and master....oh and write and arrange for orchestra...oh and the fact i can hear every layer in a song transparently and replicate it on any of these instruments or timbres...gives me no more of an informed opinion than a 15 year old kerrang listener who knows f**k all.

s**t....i hate human beings.x



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18 Aug 2008, 4:38 pm

Don't worry, they probably hate you as well.