Adding a third gender option

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What I understood you to say is that your sex is male but you do not identify with male as a gender, and thus changing the gender field to say "sex" would allow you to select male without worrying about your gender.

This is an expectation that I believe is fairly insensitive to transgender people in general, even if individuals identify in some way with their sex assigned at birth, although I understand now you did not intend that expectation.



That or I didn't read you clearly.



I use gender to specifically mean "psychological gender," not sex. For some reason everyone uses "male" and "female" in gender fields (where "man" and "woman" would be actually correct). I think of the two, physical sex is actually less important, unless a particular individual feels it is more important.

My objections to using "sex" instead of "gender" are that it leaves the psychological (or possibly neurological) aspect out, and leaves "other" out as an option, as you basically get "male" and "female," maybe "intersex" (which I am not sure about as a category in this context), and "none of your business." People will pick what they identify with, as no one is forced to select whatever they were assigned at birth, but it primarily pushes things back to what my own suggestion was to move away from, which was to give people more actual options than male or female, or at least an option that says "other" to accommodate people who don't identify strictly with either and would like to be able to say they don't identify with either. Basically, I wanted to get away from the idea that "male" and "female" are the only real options.



Torako said in another thread that yes, that person prefers to be called "it." I know of another person who uses "it" as a pronoun. While I would never label someone "it" against their will, if that's what someone asks, I'll certainly respect it.

What I understood you to say is that your sex is male but you do not identify with male as a gender, and thus changing the gender field to say "sex" would allow you to select male without worrying about your gender.

This is an expectation that I believe is fairly insensitive to transgender people in general, even if individuals identify in some way with their sex assigned at birth, although I understand now you did not intend that expectation.



That or I didn't read you clearly.



I use gender to specifically mean "psychological gender," not sex. For some reason everyone uses "male" and "female" in gender fields (where "man" and "woman" would be actually correct). I think of the two, physical sex is actually less important, unless a particular individual feels it is more important.

My objections to using "sex" instead of "gender" are that it leaves the psychological (or possibly neurological) aspect out, and leaves "other" out as an option, as you basically get "male" and "female," maybe "intersex" (which I am not sure about as a category in this context), and "none of your business." People will pick what they identify with, as no one is forced to select whatever they were assigned at birth, but it primarily pushes things back to what my own suggestion was to move away from, which was to give people more actual options than male or female, or at least an option that says "other" to accommodate people who don't identify strictly with either and would like to be able to say they don't identify with either. Basically, I wanted to get away from the idea that "male" and "female" are the only real options.

Torako said in another thread that yes, that person prefers to be called "it." I know of another person who uses "it" as a pronoun. While I would never label someone "it" against their will, if that's what someone asks, I'll certainly respect it.

Excuse me for just AOLing the whole of your reply to me. I did attempt to reply point-by-point, but it was wearing me out and driving me nuts, so I will simply say that you are caricaturing my suggestions beyond recognition. How could you POSSIBLY think that I was saying I want to "select male without worrying about [my] gender"? How many times must I reiterate that I am transgendered, therefore (a) OF COURSE I worry about my gender (frequently to the point of being suicidal, in fact), and (b) on pain of logical absurdity, I cannot be "insensitive to transgender people in general"! For the sake of my already fragile sanity, I will not be reading any more of this thread!

There are 2 genders: male and female.

If you was born with a penis, you are male. If you are born with a vagina, you are female.

I am born a female.

Not liking shopping or make-up doesn't make me any less of a female.

When women reach the menopause, they lose some of their female hormones. Their periods stop. They sometimes grow facial hair. Do you hear people call them ''a third gender''? I don't. They are still women.

There are 2 genders: male and female. There is not male, female, and Aspie. There is just male and female.
You are either male or female. If you was born with a penis, you are male. If you are born with a vagina, you are female.

I am born a female. Not liking shopping or make-up doesn't make me any less of a female. When women reach the menopause, they lose some of their female hormones. Their periods stop. They sometimes grow facial hair. Do you hear people call them ''a third gender''? I don't. They are still women.