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28 Jul 2007, 8:55 am

stimming is looked down upon... :roll:
my family find it very annoying that I have to do these things and simply cast them aside, like they are nothing
I have one real stim-blinking
I wear sunglasses so nobody sees



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28 Jul 2007, 9:39 am

My most profound stim, is rocking in my sleep, when I was little id lie down on the bed on my side, arm under my body and rock back and forth, sometimes hitting the wall, as I got bigger I had to stop lying on my arm cause it was falling asleep, and to this day I do it, everynight, when I went to collage was the longest I had ever gone without rocking and the first few nights were horrible, never will I shair a room or bed with someone, NEVER!!

I fidgit alot, and always have a thought or song playing in my head. I also used to get on an office chair, kneel on it and spin, thats fun, but can only do that in private.

When typing something on here that is hard for me sometimes, ill get up and pace for a few seconds, come back, type more and do it again, heh.



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28 Jul 2007, 8:51 pm

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I don't have as many stimming behaviors as I used to in fact I don't stim at all, but my mother does. She is constantly tapping on something or humming and these behaviors make me cringe. I often try to tell her to stop, but she won't and I get really annoyed. It makes me very anxious when she stims and I just want to scream!
I don't think I'm asperger's but when people tap and click things it drives me f'ing INSANE!


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28 Jul 2007, 9:09 pm

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I don't think I'm asperger's but when people tap and click things it drives me f'ing INSANE!


If I hear tapping, I'm likely to start tapping along, either with the same rhythm or something complementary. For example, I might feel the need to 'fill in the gaps' in the rhythm. If I'm walking around outside and I hear music, I am caught between two conflicting drives: one, the strong desire to mold my walking into an ambulatory dance to best suit the music; two, the anticipated horror of drawing unwanted attention. Which impulse wins out is a matter of my mood.



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30 Jul 2007, 1:18 am

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When I first started reading about AS, I thought, "Well I don't flap my hands or rock back and forth. Maybe I'm not AS after all." But everything else I read indicated that I *did* have AS. But in the last week or so every once in a while I'll suddenly realize that I'm rocking back and forth or flapping my hands. It feels quite natural and familiar. I think I've been rocking and flapping my hands all along and I just never noticed!! ...


Same thing with me. I also am remembering a debate I took part in during high school once; one of my reviewers wrote 'body rocking back and forth is distracting,' on one of my response cards. My reaction was to assume that I had accidentally gotten someone else's review, but now I wonder.

What's the difference between stimming and fidgeting? Do AS people ever fidget, and do NT people ever stim? Can one tell just by looking (from the outside)?

On the computer- I just noticed that I drum my fingers lightly on the keys, in sequence from outside to in, starting with a and ; and finishing with f and j. Stim or fidget?



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30 Jul 2007, 1:27 am

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Do you stim? How?


All my stimming is oral.
I'll either talk excessively, flick my tongue against the back of my front-bottom teeth until it bleeds (and usually keep going), or bite my lip until it bleeds (and then some). I have lip balms scatters around my home, my work, and about four in my bag to prevent my lips from cracking and bleeding excessively.



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30 Jul 2007, 1:44 am

LKL wrote:
What's the difference between stimming and fidgeting? Do AS people ever fidget, and do NT people ever stim? Can one tell just by looking (from the outside)?

On the computer- I just noticed that I drum my fingers lightly on the keys, in sequence from outside to in, starting with a and ; and finishing with f and j. Stim or fidget?


STIMMING!

Stimming - a repetitive body movement that self-stimulates one or more senses in a regulated manner.
Often, fidgets. the condition or an instance of being nervously restless, uneasy, or impatient; make uneasy.

My stim is rapidly bouncing my foot. It is very comforting to me. I also chew my cheek and lips. I am a major fidgetor too! That is NOT comforting! It is usually an "I want out of here" response!

I suppose NT's do both, but I can't think of anyone being NT if they have a nervous condition... they just aren't AS !


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30 Jul 2007, 2:49 am

So something like stroking a pet could be a stim.



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30 Jul 2007, 2:54 am

Hmmm.....
I get the feeling that stims are more repetitive body movements that don't involve "things". Stims are supposed to be self stimulating. If it involved a "thing", it seems that would qualify it as a particular sensory stimulation... such as people who like to rub velvet because of its feel, but hate to touch satin for the same reason - it is not self stimulating but needs the velvet or the satin to solicit a response.... Liane Holliday Willey, in her book "Pretending to be Normal" wrote that she used to like to chew on sand paper, emory boards (nail files) and aluminum foil as a child... that is more a sensory pleasure with a thing as opposed to chewing your lip or cheek for comfort. I think you think less about chewing your cheek as opposed to having to go find an emory board to chomp on.
Maybe I have this wrong and it is all one and the same, but I think stimming is more like rocking, eye rolling, finger fluttering, thumb holding, tongue chewing, finger drumming, etc.
Now, if you did the same motion of stroking a pet when the pet wasn't there... that would probably qualify it as a stim!! ! :)


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30 Jul 2007, 1:40 pm

what about clicking a pen or running a string of beads through your fingers over and over?



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30 Jul 2007, 2:16 pm

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Callista wrote:
Why, why, why do they insist stimming is distracting?! It HELPS me to concentrate, to tolerate stress, to basically function in a crazy world.


Because to them, it is distracting. It's one of the NT limitations. Not only does it distract them when we do it, but they can't imagine it being anything but distracting to the person who is doing it, because it would distract them if they were doing it. And obviously we're just broken NTs who really ought to react the same way they do to everything.

(Yeah, I get annoyed when NTs characterize the things that are normal for me as abnormal. How'd you notice?)

Ways I stim: I rock both front-back and side-side, I bounce my leg, I flap my hands like I'm going to fly away, I drum my fingers, I bite my nails, and I used to stare at a reflection or a bright point (I don't do that anymore since I realized that it triggers my migraines).


Please let not generalize, Im a NT and as I said in some other post things people consider stimming here such as: "leg shaking" and those are tics loads of NT do have aswell! !
Of course, the person doing it feels relieved, its a way to relieve anxiety (to anyone, not just AS!) and it helps you concentrate, but not the one next to you, or facing you!, gotta admit that!

They are considered to be distracting, but especially to the person close to the one "stimming"

I used to do it a lot, but controlled myself over the years since my AS mum who doesnt have these sort of stims herself, taught me on not to do them, she hates to see me pulling my hair sometimes, when im concentrating and studying for instance, and is always telling me off for it!, and she is ASPERGER, not me!!, lol

When I see someone shaking the leg (as i used to do when little..) it does distract me a bit, thats so logical, especially if you are trying to pay attention to the "teacher" for instance and the one sitting next to you is stimming like that, will distract you since the table vibrates and its very irritating!

Edit: People here are getting paranoid with the stimming things as being just an exclusive AS thing, and anything now here can be called a "stim".

Please lets not become obssesed with it and remember: NT have these repetitive movements you always talk about, they´re usually called tics, thats all, bit annoying to some people, but nothing serious!!, I really dont think there is anyone who doesnt have some kind of repetitive movement or tic.
Problem comes with Stims who are really obvious such as rocking heavily back and forth on the chair (as a grown up, not kids who do it all the time...) or running up and down stairs in a repetitive manner...thats what its considered typical autism or Aspie Stims



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30 Jul 2007, 9:07 pm

Hey, you don't have to yell.



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31 Jul 2007, 12:01 am

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I pick skin, I pull hairs out


These sound more like compulsions than stims. Especially the hair pulling- I believe that is known as trichotillomania.



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02 Aug 2007, 7:18 am

OK, so does it really matter what we call it?

The fact is that when I described what I do to a doctor, when I was trying to get a Dyspraxia diagnosis, I was told "but that's something particular to Asperger's.... have you ever considered that you might have AS?"

Anyway, what I do is this (sounds much odder than most people's, but here goes....):

You know those leather bookmarks you used to be able to buy at stately homes and other tourist attractions as souvenirs?

I use one of the floppier types as what I call my "flapper".

When I am on my own reading, I roll up the solid end of it and "flap" the tasselled end all over the page of the book/magazine/newspaper I am reading, on and on all the time. I also like to experiment with how loosely/tightly the pages are held together so as to explore the sound it makes.

I do this to relax and to help me concentrate and what I get from it are the whole combination of the lovely sounds it makes, the "strobe" effect over the text I am reading and the comforting feeling of holding something of that texture in my hand.

I don't do this in front of other people, obviously - it would drive them nuts!! As well as having them think I am a total freak.

Needless to say, I live on my own. (My cat doesn't seem to mind.)

It's good to be able to finally be able to talk about this as it is normally my best-kept secret & the only people who know are my parents (those same people who will not accept there is anything wrong with me) and one of my best friends who may also be AS.



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02 Aug 2007, 8:23 am

Does anyone know a way to stop or at least reduce stimming , mine arent too bad but my sons are he paces if i stop him from doing this action where he puts his hand over his nose and mouth and sniffs loudly , he does it a lot , like every 60 seconds , he does it whilst on the computer or watching tv if i stop hm he spends ages skipping from one end of the house to the other from back door to front door.



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02 Aug 2007, 1:13 pm

I think I stim less than I used to, but I still do it.

When I was much younger I used to:

Compulsively nod and shake my head, in a certain order - like shake, nod, nod shake, etc.
Compulsively look up and down, side to side, etc, with my eyes.
Rub my knuckles/nails together ( I liked the feel of it).

Now I do minor things, like fiddle with/wring my hands, bounce my leg, pick/bite my nails (which i hate doing but can't seem to stop!), flap my hands whenever I am excited.