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What Religion Are You?
Christian based 11%  11%  [ 19 ]
Christian based 11%  11%  [ 19 ]
Catholic 4%  4%  [ 7 ]
Catholic 4%  4%  [ 7 ]
Jewish 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Jewish 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Islamic 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Islamic 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Athiest (don't believe in God) 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
Athiest (don't believe in God) 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
Agnostic (don't know/care if God exists) 12%  12%  [ 21 ]
Agnostic (don't know/care if God exists) 12%  12%  [ 21 ]
Jehovah's Witness 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Jehovah's Witness 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Hindu 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Hindu 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Buddist 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Buddist 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Other (please Specify) 9%  9%  [ 16 ]
Other (please Specify) 9%  9%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 174

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14 Nov 2005, 7:33 pm

1. Orthodox Quaker (100%)
2. Seventh Day Adventist (88%)
3. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (85%)
4. Eastern Orthodox (77%)
5. Roman Catholic (77%)
6. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (69%)
7. Liberal Quakers (61%)
8. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (57%)
9. Hinduism (53%)
10. Orthodox Judaism (53%)
11. Sikhism (50%)
12. Islam (50%)
13. Unitarian Universalism (46%)
14. Jainism (44%)
15. Jehovah's Witness (44%)
16. Theravada Buddhism (44%)
17. Bah�'� Faith (44%)
18. Mahayana Buddhism (41%)
19. Reform Judaism (35%)
20. Taoism (31%)
21. Neo-Pagan (28%)
22. New Age (24%)
23. Secular Humanism (23%)
24. Nontheist (22%)
25. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (17%)
26. Scientology (12%)
27. New Thought (12%)

Hahaha...I consider myslef to be a liberal Protestant Christian.
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14 Nov 2005, 8:22 pm

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I believe i know what is important in my life, and i enjoy learning and knowing about the universe. I don't believe deeply that a "superior" force exists, but i believe in a concept of existance, and i preform for it and with it for my enjoyment and possibly both of ours. I think i have a belief structure, but i wouldn't call it a religion. For i have no reverence for the concept i have of what others may call god. Nor do i believe there is a correct way of behaving. I don't believe in a creator, or a govenor of the universe. Nor do i consider the concept which i speak of "super natural." And i wouldn't say i pursue this idea with zeal.
So would you be an atheist or agnostic? There's nothing wrong with saying you are; it doesn't mean you're shallow, immoral, intellectually dishonest, close-minded or anything like that. Too often, however, people are afraid of being percieved like this and dodge the question. They also tend to apply the term 'spirituality' to anything remotely connected with happiness and the purpose of life, making it too vague to be usefully defined.


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14 Nov 2005, 9:47 pm

Ooh...

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Secular Humanism (99%)
3. Liberal Quakers (86%)
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (85%)
5. Nontheist (77%)
6. Neo-Pagan (64%)
7. Theravada Buddhism (56%)
8. Reform Judaism (55%)
9. Taoism (52%)
10. New Age (50%)
11. Bah�'� Faith (46%)
12. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (42%)
13. Orthodox Quaker (39%)
14. Sikhism (39%)
15. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (38%)
16. New Thought (36%)
17. Mahayana Buddhism (36%)
18. Scientology (34%)
19. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (31%)
20. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)
21. Eastern Orthodox (16%)
22. Islam (16%)
23. Jainism (16%)
24. Orthodox Judaism (16%)
25. Roman Catholic (16%)
26. Jehovah's Witness (14%)
27. Hinduism (11%)



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15 Nov 2005, 1:25 am

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1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
2. New Age (93%)
3. Liberal Quakers (93%)
4. Unitarian Universalism (93%)
5. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (92%)

Yes, the green man avatar definately fits.
I was raised in an Episocopal(Anglican) Church
My mother is now a Quaker, a very liberal Quaker.
If I lived in Fremont Michigan I would definatey want to go to her meetings.
I've attended the local Unitarian church.
If I had kids I would definately like it if my family went.
I appreciate the New Age, but would not want to be a member of a childish hippy group.
I definately find Neo-Paganism interesting and difficult to define.
I know there are a few here who are definately identify as pagan more readily then I.



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15 Nov 2005, 3:49 am

1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
2. New Age (98%)
3. Reform Judaism (96%)
4. Sikhism (92%)
5. Unitarian Universalism (90%)
6. Mahayana Buddhism (88%)
7. Liberal Quakers (87%)
8. New Thought (82%)
9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (81%)
10. Orthodox Judaism (80%)
11. Bahá'í Faith (78%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (77%)
13. Jainism (75%)
14. Scientology (70%)
15. Islam (67%)
16. Orthodox Quaker (66%)
17. Hinduism (60%)
18. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (56%)
19. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (51%)
20. Secular Humanism (51%)
21. Taoism (47%)
22. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (42%)
23. Eastern Orthodox (36%)
24. Roman Catholic (36%)
25. Nontheist (34%)
26. Jehovah's Witness (30%)
27. Seventh Day Adventist (29%)

And all this time I thought I was a Methodist..... :wink:



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15 Nov 2005, 5:43 pm

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is jesus god? i dont know whos to say that he was just a person suffering from a mental illness? now hold on before you get all dont be talking sh** over our lord and savior crap. im just saying were you there? when he spoke he could have been suffering from some mental problem. highly unlikely but nobody knows.
No, I don't believe he was insane. You yourself just said this scenerio was "highly unlikely", didn't you? I don't believe he was insane because the evidence doesn't add up. There have been insane people who have influenced others during history, but these were rulers brought to their positions of power. Jesus was not. The gospels present a picture of a guy who's words are so riveting that people will sit around for days just to hear what he has to say. Lunatics aren't like that at all.

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why i say this is because dont you think its a little odd that an all knowing perfect god needed to become a man to know what it was like to be tested with sin? dont you think he would have already known what it was like to be tempted? since hes god? it just doesnt make sence to me thats all.
God would have known, not what it was like to sin, but of the danger of doing so. That is the whole reason he wanted Adam and Eve to stay out of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Sin is spiritual death, and he felt that was something they didn't need. Of course Jesus was tempted to sin, but this fact is not the point of his incarnation. Since God cannot undo the damage humans have done (he tried numerous times in the Old Testament) he settles for saving them instead. He is unified with humanity by being the last and perfect sacrifice and bringing everything full circle.


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15 Nov 2005, 9:33 pm

Some wasn't surprising (I'm going to Orthodox Judaism after growing up Reform). But some of this is surprising.
1. Sikhism (100%)
2. Orthodox Judaism (98%)
3. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (98%)
4. Islam (85%)
5. Jehovah's Witness (83%)
6. Jainism (78%)
7. Hinduism (78%)
8. Reform Judaism (74%)
9. Bahá'í Faith (72%)
10. Mahayana Buddhism (69%)
11. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (67%)
12. Neo-Pagan (62%)
13. Eastern Orthodox (61%)
14. Roman Catholic (61%)
15. Theravada Buddhism (60%)
16. Unitarian Universalism (56%)
17. Orthodox Quaker (56%)
18. Liberal Quakers (51%)
19. Seventh Day Adventist (48%)
20. New Age (48%)
21. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (48%)
22. Scientology (39%)
23. New Thought (36%)
24. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (34%)
25. Taoism (31%)
26. Secular Humanism (21%)
27. Nontheist (18%)

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15 Nov 2005, 11:30 pm

I'm an autotheist - I believe that I am "God".

My theory is that most religions were created by ancient leaders who needed an effective "carrot" (eternal blisssful life in Heaven) and "stick" (eternal damnation in Hell) to control the masses.

My favorite story in the Bible is Adam and Eve getting kicked out of Eden. They were kicked out for "eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil." After they did that, God said, "Now they are like us." I interpret that as similar to a parent saying, "As long as you live in my house, you live by my rules.", then the child deciding that they are old enough to determine what is good for them.

Like Zarathustra, I have left the cave and make my own journey through this world.



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15 Nov 2005, 11:43 pm

You can't be God! 8O


I'm God. :: nods ::

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16 Nov 2005, 10:56 am

I am a southern baptist. I am a preachers kid. So it was tough growing up I was on a short leash most of my childhood. I live in the capital for the Scientology religion. Once in awhile they get everyone up in arms trying to get into the schools to teach their religion. They are also trying to say that my son's adhd is not a sickness and that they can "cure him and me". What ever



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16 Nov 2005, 1:33 pm

No, i've thought about being identified as being agnostic or athiest, and i have thought about what those things really mean. Based on my views i dont really care what people call what i am. I do care a little if they start claiming i have views i dont have though.

Wiki defines agnostic as: Agnosticism is the philosophical view that the truth values of certain claims—particularly theological claims regarding the existence of God, gods, or deities—are unknown, inherently unknowable, or incoherent, and therefore, (some agnostics may go as far to say) irrelevant to life.

I do suppose i believe that the truth(behind god and existance) is irrelevant to life. But the concept i believe in that one might call god doesn't have much to do with truth.

And i might be an athiest, depending how you define god.


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16 Nov 2005, 2:29 pm

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My favorite story in the Bible is Adam and Eve getting kicked out of Eden. They were kicked out for "eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil." After they did that, God said, "Now they are like us." I interpret that as similar to a parent saying, "As long as you live in my house, you live by my rules.", then the child deciding that they are old enough to determine what is good for them.

Like Zarathustra, I have left the cave and make my own journey through this world.
Bah, that's a revisionist version of Genesis. The relationship between God and man is indeed like that of a parent and child, except that man hasn't left because he has matured. Man indeed wanted to be like God, but he did not succeed. His severing from Eden is not a defining moment of personal independance, but the moment he has become shipwrecked.


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16 Nov 2005, 6:35 pm

God has no right to tell us what to do.

If indeed he is the creator of us, he lost that right when he gave us free will. And if he isn't our creator and just charlatan(sp) then he has no rights concerning us at all.

I, personally, do not trust God.

But then..I'm not even sure I believe in God...so I have little trust in something I don't know that I believe or not? 8O Makes sense...Not.

I tend to believe in more a 'life energy' kind of thing... Like the Force hehe... But I call it Fate. And no I don't believe in "Predetermined Destiny", well not fully.

I believe that Fate offers paths to take, you can't see where the path might lead, but only imagine. It's up to you to Choose which path to take. Or something like that... :: shrugs ::

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16 Nov 2005, 6:52 pm

I am both intricately intertwined in the wholeness of being, and an individual with an ego.
Which means, I am both a child of the divine, and a person who wants to hold the reigns in my own hands.

I can not be shipwrecked. I can never be seperated from that which I am. I am part of the divine emination or energy flow. (Even physics will tell me that.) I can however create a mental state in which I percieve myself to be wholly seperate.

I have absolutely no need for religious tenants that would keep me in a childish state in relation to the divine. Such tenants serve one end, to keep me a child in relation to the preestablished leadership of the religion, a leadership that I also have absolutely no use for.

I think the biggest reason Baptist ministers kids run amuck is because they don't, for one minute, buy the hype their parents are busy pedaling to others. Your God's servant, yea right, I've seen you when your angry, lonely, tired, hungry, and horney. Go tell that BS to the Smiths down the street. They believe you.

As to the Garden of Eden.
I think the way it was written in the Torah is about control.
Control as in, you are a disobediant child who needs to learn how to behave, and I'm going to teach you. Also, it denies mankind access to the Tree of Life. It is my belief that we can eat from the metaphorical Tree of Life, we just have to work very hard to get there. Funny thing is that this belief is supported in Kabbala. Figures the mystics would get it right.



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16 Nov 2005, 7:38 pm

GalileoAce wrote:
God has no right to tell us what to do.
Actually, as created beings, the opposite would be true: We have no right to tell God what to do. The reason he didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil isn't because he wanted to keep them in a permenant cage, but simply for their own safety. It's like a three-year-old whining about why you won't let her stay up late and watch Friday the 13th. Obviously, the kid doesn't understand why these things wouldn't be good for her, and by the same token humans cannot fully comprehend the mind of God. A cup is not capable of holding the ocean. Frankly, I can't see how anyone could say that sin did us any good.


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17 Nov 2005, 12:19 am

I don't believe in Sin