Yupa wrote:
Yes, well I acknowledge that bullying isn't nice, I've known a couple people who actually -did- deserve it. Case profiles? Let me provide two:
"John". Always talked about drugs and violence in class. If he wasn't threatening someone or bragging about his supposed mastery of the martial arts, he was making lame drug cracks at inopportune moments. It was pretty easy to guess that he had drugs on his brain.
If he saw a jar of salt he would say "That's cocaine" and he liked calling everyone a crackhead or pothead.
As for his love of violence, I once showed the class a picture I'd drawn in my spare time and said "Isn't this guy cool?"
And John said, "no, he's a dork. I want to beat the sh-t out of him."
He was verbally bullied by his peers, and he completely deserved it.
"Nick". Another classmate of mine. One of the most unhygienic ogres on the face of the planet. I call him an ogre because it'd be disgraceful to give him "human" status. He never bathed, never washed his underarms, never combed his hair, never wore underwear, always wore pants that kept sagging down almost past his waist in class, and once he wore a pair that was so big they fell down past his knees and everyone caught a glimpse of his privates. And you know what that little creep did? He -laughed- about it!
He also had a huge temper. He liked to throw stuff at people in class, and when someone tried to send him to the principal's office, if he didn't make some outlandish death threat, he would explode into a fit of 'WAAAAAAAAAAAH!! ! ! I WANT MY MOMMY!! !" or yell the F-word at the top of his lungs several times.
When he wasn't angry he was flapping his arms around and giggling through his hideous, gap-toothed grin.
He was a homophobe and a racist. Some of the stuff he said about gays, and some of the stuff he said about blacks or Asians, really, really annoyed me. It took effort not to sink to his level and punch him in his bug, puffy nose.
He was the very image of a big, pale, puffy monster and liked coming up with lame, half-baked excuses for his personality, like "My parents are divorced," "Mom never said I had to,"
"You're just mean to me because you're a big fat f--!" etc.
He was verbally and sometimes physically bullied, but I have to say he -definitely- earned it.
I think that no one deserves mistreatment however people who do not protect themselves psychologically, first and foremost, are vulnerable.
There are ugly bespectacled ginger freckly geeks who spend their time in the library, they do not harm anyone and do not get bullied?
Why?
Because they read from early childhood fictional novels about bullying and how it feels to bully and to be bullied and what to do about it. They learn that bullies are cowards and they learn that it is better, if bullied, to fight back and lose than to back down, as the bully will not bother with them again because bullies choose people who don't fight back.
Fiction helps kids get to know the ways of the world, they make friends with the fictional characters and viscerally experience through the characters, nasty horrible events, so they do not have to to through the experiences themselves in actual-factual life.
On the other hand, there are geeks who don't read novels and do not get to know the ways of the world, they do not know that bullies are cowards, they see them as scary, and do not fight back, this attracts the bully to re-victimise them and lays them open for risk of further harm throughout life.
I think the first boy in your post should just be ignored, he isn't funny, bragging about drugs and violence, no one should give him attention, he is an attention seeker.
As for Nick, no one likes odours but name calling isn't fair. He might be hiding depression, people stop bathing and have low self esteem with depression, the lack energy, he probably laughed to hide it.
He sounds like he engages in bullying behaviour, and people should not show fear, he is unhappy otherwise he would not bully. He needs to be stood up to, like for like, if he pushes you, push him back and so forth.
Might he have asperger's, flapping is a sign.
No room for bigotry on race and sexuality, call him out on this stuff.
Don't victimise him if he hasn't hurt you first, but by all means defend yourself against him if he does.
Divorce can be very traumatic for a kid, they often blame themselves and go into a depression and act it out at school.
This is not easy for people with happy parents to see.
I think he deserves justice, not bullying.
14 Nov 2013, 5:18 pm
