low blood pressure, hypoglycemia--related to AS and or NLD?

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09 Jul 2009, 6:24 pm

i'm self-diagnosed at this point (NLD), so often still obsessing about traits, etc. i just read a brief article about the use of cortisol (still experimental, i believe) in alleviating anxiety, etc. among those with AS.

cortisol has the effect of raising both BP and blood sugar. i've tended to have very low BP; also have lots of symptoms of hypoglycemia. (no health insurance, so no dx of hypoglycemia for sure.) but i do get really shaky and slightly disoriented if i skip a meal.

is that common for people with AS and/or NLD--the low bp and hypoglycemia, i mean?

also--maybe this is an entirely different topic--but i know many people on the spectrum really respond well to caffeine (in terms of lowered anxiety, improved sleep, etc.) is there anyone with the opposite effect? extreme sensitivity to caffeine?


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09 Jul 2009, 6:33 pm

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also--maybe this is an entirely different topic--but i know many people on the spectrum really respond well to caffeine (in terms of lowered anxiety, improved sleep, etc.) is there anyone with the opposite effect? extreme sensitivity to caffeine?

I have been off of caffeine for years. (caffeinated drinks, that is). Caffeine gives me headaches now and too hyper. I can't say I know if this is because I've just don't consume caffeine though or not.



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09 Jul 2009, 6:38 pm

I don't know about my blood pressure.
I'm hypoglycemic.
I don't really think it's related to ASDs, though.


As for caffeine, it has various effects on me... except when it doesn't effect me at all, that is.


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09 Jul 2009, 6:42 pm

I seem to remember there was a thread about blood pressure before. As I recall, low blood pressure wasn't uncommon, but I don't think it's directly linked to ASDs.

I'm not sure if I'm on the Spectrum or not, but I have low blood pressure, which got even lower when I was pregnant. My mother is the same, and my grandmother and aunt.

I'm pretty sure my husband is on the Spectrum and I don't know about his blood pressure, but he gets very shaky, agitated and angry if he doesn't eat regularly. :(



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09 Jul 2009, 6:51 pm

exhausted wrote:
i'm self-diagnosed at this point (NLD), so often still obsessing about traits, etc. i just read a brief article about the use of cortisol (still experimental, i believe) in alleviating anxiety, etc. among those with AS.

cortisol has the effect of raising both BP and blood sugar. i've tended to have very low BP; also have lots of symptoms of hypoglycemia. (no health insurance, so no dx of hypoglycemia for sure.) but i do get really shaky and slightly disoriented if i skip a meal.

is that common for people with AS and/or NLD--the low bp and hypoglycemia, i mean?

also--maybe this is an entirely different topic--but i know many people on the spectrum really respond well to caffeine (in terms of lowered anxiety, improved sleep, etc.) is there anyone with the opposite effect? extreme sensitivity to caffeine?


Cortisol, as in the hormone referred to as "the stress hormone"? That sounds kinda sketchy to me..

Do you eat enough?

Lots of problems can come from hypoglycemia itself.. People with really low blood sugar get violent and downright psychotic. (But only until their blood sugar goes back up.. but seriously, you'd swear that they must be schizophrenic if you didn't know they were hypoglycemic.)

Also, do you have AD(H)D? Some people find that caffeine has the same effect as other stimulants so far as controlling ADD. Once I got onto adderall, I had a lot less trouble sleeping.



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09 Jul 2009, 7:07 pm

I'm diagnosed with Asperger's and NLD and I have a lot of trouble with hypoglycemia and low blood pressure. My father, who I am sure has AS and NLD (he's not diagnosed, but he's definitely an aspie) also has trouble with hypoglycemia, even more than I do.

I'm not sure if these traits are as common to autistics as, say, special interests are, but there may be a percentage of those of us on the spectrum that have trouble with low blood pressure and blood sugar.

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09 Jul 2009, 7:09 pm

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exhausted wrote:
i'm self-diagnosed at this point (NLD), so often still obsessing about traits, etc. i just read a brief article about the use of cortisol (still experimental, i believe) in alleviating anxiety, etc. among those with AS.

cortisol has the effect of raising both BP and blood sugar. i've tended to have very low BP; also have lots of symptoms of hypoglycemia. (no health insurance, so no dx of hypoglycemia for sure.) but i do get really shaky and slightly disoriented if i skip a meal.

is that common for people with AS and/or NLD--the low bp and hypoglycemia, i mean?

also--maybe this is an entirely different topic--but i know many people on the spectrum really respond well to caffeine (in terms of lowered anxiety, improved sleep, etc.) is there anyone with the opposite effect? extreme sensitivity to caffeine?


Cortisol, as in the hormone referred to as "the stress hormone"? That sounds kinda sketchy to me..

Do you eat enough?

Lots of problems can come from hypoglycemia itself.. People with really low blood sugar get violent and downright psychotic. (But only until their blood sugar goes back up.. but seriously, you'd swear that they must be schizophrenic if you didn't know they were hypoglycemic.)

Also, do you have AD(H)D? Some people find that caffeine has the same effect as other stimulants so far as controlling ADD. Once I got onto adderall, I had a lot less trouble sleeping.



i generally eat well. (i don't think i'm psychotic. but who knows?)

not thinking of trying cortisol. agnostic as to whether it would be effective or not. just noted it does raise bp and blood sugar levels in those with AS (or at least experimentally). got me wondering if low BP and hypoglycemia are relatively common in those with AS and/or NLD.


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09 Jul 2009, 7:42 pm

My blood pressure is on the low side of normal. After years of trouble I have figured out I have reactive hypoglycemia when the body release too much insulin too soon, especially after refined sugar. But it can happen even if I eat a high protein breakfast just not as quickly. I can be fine one minute and be dizzy, shaking and confused the next. I think the trick is to eat every two-three hours-small amounts of protein to keep the blood sugar level.



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09 Jul 2009, 7:44 pm

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My blood pressure is on the low side of normal. After years of trouble I have figured out I have reactive hypoglycemia when the body release too much insulin too soon, especially after refined sugar. But it can happen even if I eat a high protein breakfast just not as quickly. I can be fine one minute and be dizzy, shaking and confused the next. I think the trick is to eat every two-three hours-small amounts of protein to keep the blood sugar level.


do you find you crave protein a lot?


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09 Jul 2009, 7:53 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:

Lots of problems can come from hypoglycemia itself.. People with really low blood sugar get violent and downright psychotic. (But only until their blood sugar goes back up.. but seriously, you'd swear that they must be schizophrenic if you didn't know they were hypoglycemic.)


Yep, that sounds like my husband. There were times he just seemed to change completely. It could be pretty scary. Problem was that he refused to take any responsiblity for ensuring that he ate regularly. His sister is the same, but she always has a Mars bar or something with her so that if she has to miss a meal or feels herself getting shaky she has something quick and easy to eat with her.



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09 Jul 2009, 7:57 pm

i have HIGH blood pressure and my dad (also on spectrum) also has HIGH blood pressure, we both get hypoglycemia though. I think it's more hereditary than an autistic trait. As far as caffiene we both had to go caffiene free because of high BP, my son is sensitive to caffiene more than me. But i mainly think it's genetic more than anything.



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09 Jul 2009, 8:00 pm

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My blood pressure is on the low side of normal. After years of trouble I have figured out I have reactive hypoglycemia when the body release too much insulin too soon, especially after refined sugar. But it can happen even if I eat a high protein breakfast just not as quickly. I can be fine one minute and be dizzy, shaking and confused the next. I think the trick is to eat every two-three hours-small amounts of protein to keep the blood sugar level.


do you find you crave protein a lot?


I like meat and but I actually crave sugar which is the worst thing for me. When I was drinking the idea of eating a candy bar repulsed me. When I quit drinking my sweet tooth kicked in. Now I've got pretty much the same pattern with sugar as I did alcohol. I will binge, rationalize,sneak ,drop everything for my fix.



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09 Jul 2009, 9:58 pm

I'm not sure if it's common for people with AS or NLD. I guess that asking this would be the same as asking if heart disease was common - we don't know.

I have bouts of low blood pressure but it's not low all the time. It usually stays around 110/70 but at times it's dropped to 90/50 and slightly lower. My doctor thinks that I have symptoms of hypoglycemia, such as if I don't eat at least every 4 hours I get really shaky, tired and dizzy but it's never been confirmed by a blood test because at the times I experience the symptoms I can't take out my own blood and test it, or get to someone who can. My doctor says though that people can experience these symptoms without actually having low blood sugar levels, they might drop quickly but still be in the normal range.

Also, I don't really have any reaction to caffeine.


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10 Jul 2009, 12:38 am

I have such low blood pressure that I faint on a fairly regular basis.



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11 Jul 2009, 2:26 pm

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Lots of problems can come from hypoglycemia itself.. People with really low blood sugar get violent and downright psychotic. (But only until their blood sugar goes back up.. but seriously, you'd swear that they must be schizophrenic if you didn't know they were hypoglycemic.)

Too true. Don't I know it. :lmao:
When my blood sugar gets too low, my brain gets really messed up.


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11 Jul 2009, 4:11 pm

I don't know about either my blood sugar or pressure, but I get a LOT of head rushes, and I get really weak and shaky if I don't eat something about every 2 hours.

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Lots of problems can come from hypoglycemia itself.. People with really low blood sugar get violent and downright psychotic. (But only until their blood sugar goes back up.. but seriously, you'd swear that they must be schizophrenic if you didn't know they were hypoglycemic.)



Exactly the same here.

I've started yelling and swearing at people when in those states. I go back to normal after eating something sugary...


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