My world, explained to NTs
Asperger's Syndrome? Let me give you a run-down on what it's like.
Imagine you're a regular, normal human being. You have your wants, you have your needs, you have your hopes and dreams. But, everyone else around you, are dogs. They wag their tails when they are happy, growl when they are angry, and sniff eachother's crap and bark about it to communicate with each other. You, however, do not do these things: you smile, you talk, you laugh, you cry. You have a lot of trouble trying to communicate with dogs the same way dogs do instinctively.
Your mind is completely alien to all the dogs around you. You think in concepts that they cannot fathom, and you find their mentality even more incomprehensible. You simply cannot grasp the dogs' modes of thought and communication, so you for the most part elect not to do so. Well, not completely. Decades of exposure and necessity has lead you to learn some of the art of barking and urine-huffing. But, it is always an act, and you feel filthy for doing so. This dichotomy of you knowing that barking and rubbing your nose in dog urine is stupid, while wishing you could without gagging -- if only to get by, get through each day where they run the show -- fills a deep well of confusion and frustration that you cannot hope to empty. And you are alone in this world, surrounded and crowded by barking, urine-sniffing dogs.
You alone see the many problems dogs have with eachother and the world around them. You almost never understand why or how they've gotten into so many messes, that you think would be easily avoided if they would just stop and look in front of them for but one moment. Not only do they seem incapable of figuring out what seems glaringly obvious to you, though, dogs merrily go about their way as if they have no idea they have problems in the first place! But you can immediately design solutions for those problems. Not only that, but you can and want to engineer new modes of philosophical thought, systems of government, efficient fuel consumption for travel, ways to minimize war and world hunger, mathematical computations and scientific theories to describe the underlying fabric of reality, etc. to make the world a better place for everyone. If only you could communicate these ideas outside of your head in a way dogs could understand.
However, even if you could, they will not hear you. Not only can't dogs understand, in fact, they won't. They are inexplicably hostile to the very idea of understanding. All they know is you are different, and that makes you easy prey. Your nose cannot pick up nearly as many scents as theirs, you lack their instinctual understanding of pack hierarchy, you cannot run as fast as they, and you lack their teeth and coordinated hunting prowess. Because of this, you have become a pariah. They hate and fear you and your differences, and your only defense is shouting "WHY!?".
Despite the fact that you merely imagine in modes that they do not, have different wants and needs than most of them, and can think circles around any of them, the dogs that run the world have thoughtlessly concluded that there's something wrong with *you*, all because you don't cheerfully sniff excrement like everybody else.
THAT'S an Aspie's world.
You're welcome.
No, that is your world - that is -NOT- an Aspie's world. While I agree that I don't recognize or understand what the assorted herds, flocks and packs of people around me are doing, the bitterness and acrimonious feelings conveyed in your words choice are not something I agree with. When we are able to understand that there is no collective consciousness ganging up on us, then we have a better chance of understanding how we function and interrelate with those who think and work differently than ourselves. And from years of working with and sharing my life with animals... well, honestly I'm a little irked that you reduce them so primitively - I am happier seeing more of my four legged friends than those with two.
M.
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For those who seek an alternative, it is coming.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Ok dokey. Time to put your money where your mouth is. Since this is an AS forum, you can post your ideas for new modes of philosophical thought, systems of government, efficient fuel consumption for travel, ways to minimize war and world hunger and also the mathematical computations and scientific theories to describe the underlying fabric of reality.
Oh, gawd, I WANT TO PLAY TOO! !!
Of course, all of these issues were officially resolved by Wyld Stallions(TM) music a la Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure; but, flying in the face of this irrefutable factoid, I offer unto you the following for your perusal:
Philosophical Thought: I would establish something of a “dog-eat-dog” philosophy.
New system of government: Caesar Milan for president! Be the Pack Leader, baby! THAT'S what I'm talking 'bout! BOOYAH!
Efficient fuel consumption for travel: Perhaps doggie treats laid out in a row so we can refuel as we move from A to B?
Minimize war and world hunger: Pitbull euthanasia? Oh and ban ALL the Schnauzers. They’re not mean or vicious, but you just know they’re up to something because of that name. Schnauzers. Say it with me now: Schnauzers. Doesn’t it just reek of conspiracy?
Mathematical computations and scientific theories to describe the underlying fabric of reality: This has already been computed and established. The answer was 42. However, in dog-years it would be 294, of course.
I agree with that this is your perspective only and your AS.
Mine's, like, from a different universe, no offence.
I for example just do not do these things. My AS/HFA mean I do not have a natural expression, only others have.
My severe communication impairment also doesn't mean I am not very interested in other people and learning their way of doing things because it's interesting.
For me it never came for 18 years and would have never come naturally because I am very different. Cool if you can, it probably means you're not severely affected.
I do not share that the slightest either. I am very happy being able to finally interact, expressing myself in words and non-verbal signals that are understood.
My expereince has been that most with AS and some form of autism or whatever other disability are complete the same in messing up things in live that are unnecessary. Such as ignorance of others, talking about them badly.
If I understand - and from the sounds of it, our minds are miles apart - I am sure anybody else without the typical autistic communication deficits can also understand.
And here I sincerely doubt you because my experience has been vastly different.
If I know more than a kid, I can figure them out and make them go along with me by interacting with them in a way that they understand me and see reason, if I have reason on my side too. My experiences also have been that if I do not posses more understanding of their behaviour and of our surroundings than them, I cannot figure them out and they won't listen to me.
Of course. As obvious from your post, you also attack them back by insulting them as 'urine-sniffing dogs' as proof of a certain level of social understanding that other autistic people that are less close to normal people than you in that aspect lack.
How do normal people sniff excrements exactly? What stands for excrements? Many of the more autistic of us won't get (all) metaphorical social stuff as easily.
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The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. Terry Pratchett
Oh, gawd, I WANT TO PLAY TOO! !!
Of course, all of these issues were officially resolved by Wyld Stallions(TM) music a la Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure; but, flying in the face of this irrefutable factoid, I offer unto you the following for your perusal:
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They did, didn't they? I forgot all about Wyld Stallion but you are absolutely right. Their music fixed everything.
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Ok dokey. Time to put your money where your mouth is. Since this is an AS forum, you can post your ideas for new modes of philosophical thought, systems of government, efficient fuel consumption for travel, ways to minimize war and world hunger and also the mathematical computations and scientific theories to describe the underlying fabric of reality.
+1 I am so fed up with seeing crap about how Aspies Are Teh Master Race.
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Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
I find this thread on the same level of this thread
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Wow, what incredulous responses!
If you guys had actually paid attention to detail, the topic reads, "My world, explained to NTs".
That means that she is, indeed, describing a metaphor of the way she sees the world around her. NOT how everyone else with ASD should see the world.
So before you jump on her like a bunch of crazed cats, please please PLEASE pay attention to detail; Read the topic line first, and get a clue.
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Wow, thank you.
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