What I think of NT relationships!

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Bozewani
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14 Aug 2009, 2:14 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MM3KkF5urY

This is extreme but it shows the relative belief of how I feel.

It's all very superficial, contrived and idiotic.

The men: give me all the sex I want
The girls: thank you for spending lots of money on me and saying you love me because you spend lots of money.



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14 Aug 2009, 5:07 pm

Yeah, because that's what every NT relationship is like.

How very close-minded an observation.



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14 Aug 2009, 6:03 pm

I'm sure my parents would be delighted to hear you say that about their marriage. They've been happily married for 30 years. You couldn't do that with a superficial relationship.



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14 Aug 2009, 6:46 pm

MY PARENTS TOOOOOOO

I think when the relationship becomes serious its not so much about that or at least not with a good amount of parents i've been around. Most of my friends say how jealous they are of how strong my parents marriage is and i even attribute their unity as a reason i was able to come so far even with aspergers, I will agree tho that if u go to a bar what the OP posted is pretty much all you will be seeing there, but sooner or later the bar scene dies and reality sets in IFFFFF you want as happy of a life as possible.



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14 Aug 2009, 6:58 pm

Ummm....most of the NTs I've run into aren't like this. I know a good number of NTs who are not only nice but in long term relationships.

Yes there are people out there who are not only superficial but have the socially gifted skills in manipulating but that really isn't fair to generalize NTs in this bias category. There are just as many aspies who are superficial or use people for their own benefits as there are NTs. I've seen the same attitudes in aspie sites expressing these kinds of behavior. Then again...one can never tell for certain if they really are an aspie or making up their condition just as one who is considered NT because they are undiagnosed.

The only difference I could see is a person on the autistic spectrum struggling socially since most of our social graces aren't considered "normal". Then again....I've heard the same kind of opinions coming from NTs so go figure....


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18 Aug 2009, 1:27 am

The video is so true!, lol!


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18 Aug 2009, 11:07 am

We would like to think that there are "NT's" and "Us" as if we were totally different.

Well we aren't. It is all a matter of degree.

"NTs" are smart and dumb. Thoughtful and thoughtless. Naughty and nice.

It all boils down to YOU and the people you like and want to be friends with.



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18 Aug 2009, 12:04 pm

Wombat wrote:
We would like to think that there are "NT's" and "Us" as if we were totally different.

Well we aren't. It is all a matter of degree.

"NTs" are smart and dumb. Thoughtful and thoughtless. Naughty and nice.

It all boils down to YOU and the people you like and want to be friends with.


Truth.



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18 Aug 2009, 12:39 pm

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Bozewani wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MM3KkF5urY

This is extreme but it shows the relative belief of how I feel.


That was a pretty funny video. I really liked how they modeled it after a nature documentary.

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It's all very superficial, contrived and idiotic.


Superficial? Yes. These are one night hookups. Contrived? Yes. That's why it works as a nature documentary. Because it follows a set ritual. Idiotic? For the women, yes. For the men, no. But this is merely because there is a double standard that jusdges the men positively for this and the women negatively.

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The men: give me all the sex I want


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The girls: thank you for spending lots of money on me and saying you love me because you spend lots of money.


That wasn't in the video. That's just in your head. Watch the video again. Does any money get spent? No. Is there any mention of money? No. Why? Because money is irrelevent in college one night hookups. It plays no part.

The most obvious point that you have missed (other than imagining that college girls give a hoot about what college boys buy them- which is usually nothing more than cheap beer) is that college one night hookups aren't representative of "NT relationships". Perhaps you are a college student and have seen this happen around you and imagine that this is what it is like for everyone in college, that age and not in college, and once people get older. This myopic view is what people are referring to when they say "huh? not my NT parents". Sometimes when you observe something, you CAN'T safely extrapolate to all other situations and assume they will be the same. Visualizing this as NT relationships is rather like eating a Twinkie and then declaring that all food is like that.



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18 Aug 2009, 1:22 pm

Video aside, what I don't like about NT relationships is the whole 'positive reinforcement' tactic (for example, you don't tell your spouse what they do that you don't like, you ignore it. You only praise them for what they do that you like and the idea is that they will do more of it and will gradually phase out the negative behaviors because those do not get a positive result. It's the same thing they do with training animals) which imo breaks down to manipulation. And you can't tell me "Not all NT relationships are like that" because (while that may be true) this is stuff they teach at counseling and in relationship books. This is the stuff that is supposed to make a relationship work. It's just not something I find desirable, personally. I could never feel right about treating someone that way and if I found out that someone was doing it to me, I'd feel betrayed.

I'd much rather someone came up to me and said "Dear, its kind of annoying to me when you do *whatever* because..." and I'll stop immediately! (Well ok maybe not immediately, I'd want to know why and I'd try to present my opinion of it and discuss and dissect it...) But I would never want to do something that bothers my spouse by accident and not even know it :? Besides, I'd probably completely miss the positive reinforcement thing. If someone was praising me, I wouldn't think about what I did to make that happen, I'd just be happy and think things were great and continue on in my habits lol



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23 Aug 2009, 11:02 pm

Is PDA (public display of affection) common to NTs?!


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25 Aug 2009, 2:31 am

Translation: BAWWWW.

Sorry if this seems rude, but you need to stop getting all angry at "NTs." Firstly, classifying subgenres of human is exactly the kind of prejudice most "Aspies" are totally against. You're obviously just being bitter. No offense intended, but grow up.

You say "neurotypical" as if it's supposed to be synonymous with "immoral", and it's not.

Just a thought here - aren't some of the commonly-known symptoms of asperger's lack of sympathy, empathy, and emotional relation? You're ragging on these people for apparently being jerks, and yet we're the ones who actually have diagnosed symptoms of what could be construed as jerkiness. That's not to say we're all jerks, but if you're going to judge people based on their mental status, why don't you look up your own diagnosis?

Not every neurotypical is a jerk, and not every AS person is a jerk.
I thought we all grew out of the whole labeling and prejudice thing in, oh, I don't know.. grade seven?
You need to seriously reconsider your ideologies.

Oh, and on another note - my neurotypical parents just celebrated their 20th anniversary. I've seen nothing but love from them. They've stuck together through a whole bunch of BS, INCLUDING financial problems. Quit implying girls are gold-diggers and guys are sex-mongers. My parents are nothing like that and neither are any of my "neurotypical" friends.

What what you say.



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25 Aug 2009, 5:15 am

sherpaderp wrote:
Translation: BAWWWW.

Sorry if this seems rude, but you need to stop getting all angry at "NTs." Firstly, classifying subgenres of human is exactly the kind of prejudice most "Aspies" are totally against. You're obviously just being bitter. No offense intended, but grow up.



Yea I agree. It is really quite pathetic.



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25 Aug 2009, 5:33 am

The whole aspergers/NT segregation is stupid.

People moan because NTs dont like them, and then they post things like this.

When you've met one NT, you've met one NT. Same with aspies.



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25 Aug 2009, 5:37 am

:wtg:



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26 Aug 2009, 3:10 pm

I am doing anthropological excersizes. I am comparing and constrasting the psyches of Aspies and NTs since I do not understand NTs.

When I don't understand something, I like to rationalize things and this list of NTs are x versus Aspies are y is the best way to understand our differences.

I am not talking about race and segregation here, racism, segregation, apartheid, prejudice, bias might be perceived as the unintended result, but it is unintended.