On the release of the lockerbie bomber

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FREEDOM! Im sorry if i sound really biased but its a good time to be alive. That poor innocent merghini(cant spell) guy has been finnally freed. The Libyan people arent celebrating the welcome home of a terrorist, instead there celebrating the freedom of an innocent man and more noticably the american people have gone abit too far with the whole boycotting crap. I mean if we all decieded to boycott america for the war in iraq and for bush's crap antics in general we could send america into 3rd world mania! nah just kidding but it would have been possible if the eu decieded to boycott bush.

He was welcomed home as a warrior hero for the Jihad.

ruveyn

And? What importance is that fact? So what, muslims exist?
Seriously if America stopped this pathetic fundamentalist stance on Christianity that is has at the moment, maybe the muslims wouldn't hate your country's guts? Ever think of that? Cause I mean, yeah they have fundamentalists, and you have fundamentalists, but they have no motive if your fundamentalists just sit quietly and preach to themselves.

And to add to that, what about the soldiers who are welcomed back in any country in the world for fighting in wars. For killing other members of their own species. Doesn't that trouble you at all? That maybe humanity is the problem overall? Not just this one man?

^ very nicely put.

I suspect the Scots used this as an opportunity to free what is all likely-hood an innocent man. Of course for many people having someone locked up for a crime is more important than that persons guilt or lack of.

Not really because it ignored all the economic and socio-political points as to why they hate the USA so much. A portion of it is a kind of primative hatred of "freedom" but a larger part of it is support for corrupt governments like the Egyptian dictator and the Saudi royalty and for basically playing god with other people's lives to the extent of overthrowing multiple rulers in the area over the past 100 years or so. Messing with Iran's leadership a few times. Putting the Ba'athists in power in Iraq to oppose the Iranians during the Cold War. Invading Kuwait to essentially landlock Iraq and control some of the wealthier oil rigs.


It's more than just some redneck Christians. The redneck Christians are the completely annoying dumb suckers who get tricked into backing all of this mess but it's not them alone and they're actually one of the last points.

And then even going beyond that: Osama Bin Laden was also trained by the CIA and met personally with Donald Rumsfeld before.

Perhaps the concept of locking a vicious killer in a prison has validity in cutting down the number of people free to do nasty things but as a lesson to others with the same inclinations it has zero effects. As an exercise of vengeance I suppose it has minor effects but for someone who has lost a family member or a friend I doubt it helps to any reasonable degree. I have read the man suffers from a fatal disease and will not survive long anyway. The enthusiasm of his countrymen for random killing will not be affected one way or another. Whatever the solution might be for opposing mindless killings I doubt prison is effective.

Agreed, I took SamAckary's point to be more of stop behaving in such a superior manner towards these people

Proposition:

What if the responsible party had to face his victims and reach an understanding with them? Make sure both parties cannot hurt the other but force them into a conversation and allow the victim to express directly to them about who the offender hurt.

Kind of a spin on Henry Rollins' idea for Slobodan Milošević which was more that Slobodan should have to write the name of each victim whose death he was responsible for. Considering the massive number of people he killed, he'd be busy for a number of years seeing the extent of his damage.

Megrahi is completely innocent, but even if he was solely responsible for the bombing anyone opposing his release cannot have a compassionate strand in their souls. he will be dead before the end of the year for gods sake, how does him being locked up until then serve any purpose whatsoever? i hope megrahi's cancerous ghost comes back and spews chemovomit in david camerons bed and any other as*hole trying to cop tough-on-terrorism points by denying a dying man the chance to see the sun rise in his home country.

In great pain and discomfort I hope. As much pain as the still alive passengers felt before they hit the ground.

There is an old saying: whenever one is merciful to the unjust, sooner or later one will be unjust to the merciful.

ruveyn

Or to be less scholarly no good deed goes unpunished.

So the very possible situation that the man is innocent of the crime has no effect upon you????

And what "good deed" is that? Blowing up a plane filled with innocent passengers?

ruveyn

But did he do it?

A jury of Scots thought so. That is what counts. Is one convicted or not convicted. That is the Scots Verdict. Only God and the Evil doer know who really is guilty.

What "good deed" were you referring to?

ruveyn

Letting a fatally sick and dying man, whatever his past might have been, die in peace. Even assuming he was guilty, nothing is to be gained by letting him suffer. Only a very bitter attitude applauds meaningless suffering. To exercise that bitterness in vicious meanness is to perform in the same manner as the criminal. As I indicated, this type of kindness is not appreciated by small minded people.