Supernatural (vampires, weres, and more)

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Vampires, legend said, were antisocial beings who could not bear the light of day. If one attacked you with nasty big pointy teeth, and you had no cross of NT-ism to ward it off with, you could throw a handful of rice on the ground, whereupon the evil vampire would be compelled to count every grain before continuing in its pursuit.

Sounding familiar?

Synx13, this is just hilarious! Thank you very much!

It indeed sounds familiar, except that I am not much into drinking blood - it has a rather unpleasantly bitter taste. I also like garlic, and I am not really frightened by a cross. There is some thruth in that mirror thing, though. When I look into a mirror I can see someone, but that person doesn't necessarily look like me. Hmm... Maybe being a vampire is a spectrum disorder, and not everyone shows all traits.

Feed your victems less iron rich foods. they taste better. The flavor of bitter is metalic.

there's a chatroom somewhere for aspie vampires, i am told.

only point of being a vampire is that you get to wear the stunning costumes a la "Bram Stoker's Dracula" - gary oldman and three of the most difficult costumes to choose between ever!

don't get too carried away, though - you could end up like Louis in "Interview with a Vampire" (the book) - what a WHINGER!

"Angst, angst, angst, angst, ANGST!"

needs a good slap.

V

I wasn't aware of the aspie vampires group, but there are many supernatural groups online, people who believe they are vampires, werecreatures, and fairies/elves/magical beings, or dragons. This is in the spiritual sense, not in the physical one.

I am part of one of the "werecreatures" groups, since I feel such a strong connection to cats. Many of the people there feel very connected to a particular animal, and believe that either they were that animal in a past life, or that their soul is actually of that animal. Interestingly enough, many "weres" also have a lot of aspie traits.

The vampire groups online that I have come across largely focus on a phenonmenon which they believe to be "psychic vampirism," in which they drain psychic energy from those around them, intentionally or unintentionally, and they need this energy to live. There are much fewer of the blood-drinking variety.

Eh.. I always say, as long as it's not hurting anyone (including yourself), believe whatever you please.

Heheh, I second that one, Vetivert

You know, that is interesting - while I believe in a supernatural world, I tend to think that the old myths - like vampires and werewolves and that sort of thing - are exaggerations of natural phenomena - someone pointed out in an article one time that werewolves might be an exaggeration of the way a person acts when they have rabies . . .

So to me the vampire as an aspie makes a lot of sence - you just add the blood drinking thing on the end to make us scarier!

And an excuse to wear big velevet capes . . . I'll take that!

I love Supernatural movies and Religious movies.

I've heard the rice thing before, I think I read it somewhere. Why don't vampires like garlic, anyway? Anyone know? (interested)

I'm not sure for certain, but I believe that was something added later to the vampire myth, by hollywood. In some countries, garlic was considered a "cure all," so that may be where the idea came from.

Garlic was supposed to have purifying properties in ancient times, I believe. Just as the cross was. I'd have to double check.... I'm pretty sure that's why, though.

Interestingly enough, the same principle as the rice picking up for vampires was supposed to work for witches.

Also, an unthreaded needle was supposed to protect from witches, as the witch would be forced to shrink down and go back and forth through the eye of the needle upon seeing it.

Go Louis! You're my favourite vampire!

(no hard feelings, vetivert and civet)

Yeah and I've heard people say that if you want to keep evil spirits out of your house you should hang a little package of tangled up thread at your doorways because the spirits will be obcessed with counting them and never get in your house . . . who knew the spiritual world was so obcessive?!

Interestingly, it is only evil spirits that have this problem, while the good ones apparently walk right by the thread . . .

It's the same with vampires. If they suspected someone was a vampire, they would often hang a rope with hundreds of tiny little knots in it outside of the grave. Then, as soon as the vampire rose up for the night, (s)he would see the knots and have to untie them all. By the time they finished, dawn would come, and they'd have to return to their grave.

This seems to me like an issue of convenience- sort of like how dreamcatchers are supposed to catch all of your bad dreams and let the good ones get through.

In the X-Files episode "Bad Blood" (a kind of parody episode) Mulder talks to a vampire (without knowing it's a vampire) about how vampires are supposed to be obsessive-compulsive, they have to pick up rice, so Mulder has his sunflower seeds to throw on the ground hoping that will work as well (in fact, it does, but Mulder is too daft to notice). The vampire says, "Like Rain Man, with the toothpicks", or some such thing. Mulder then explains that it isn't like Rain Man, that Rain Man was autistic, not obsessive-compulsive. Drawing the conclusion that since he counted the toothpicks, he was an autistic savant, but had he picked them up, that would have meant he was a vampire. Seems like Mulder thought all vampires have OCD and forgot that doesn't mean everyone with OCD is a vampire.

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Another possible connection: movement disorders (like Tourette's, Parkinson's). People with movement disorders struggle with doors, thresholds, and other transitions sometimes. Again, really mean to compare that with the vampire who can't enter unless invited; but no doubt it's something people have seen throughout history and found strange & mysterious, and therefore frightening & suspicious.

The most obvious association people tend to make is of course xeroderma pigmentosum, which causes the skin to be damaged by sunlight. Albinism too, perhaps, in a lesser degree.

Disabled people as monsters... Don't like it.

This is a good thread and the subject appears to be a common discussion point. A good read would be Elves, Autistics and Nazis, Oh My!

http://www.autistics.org/library/elves.html

This is an interesting thread...

I used to think that i was a reincarnation of the fey. it would explain a lot of things, such as my love of flight, my affinity for nature, my belief in magic, and my empathy for animals. i know its kinda weird, me being a boy and all, but fairies are humanoid, so they apparently have male and female types. It's just that, for some strange reason, every person in the whole dang world thinks of a girl whenever the think of fairies!

While i don't think that there are any fairies in this world, there are other dimensions devted entirely to the fey. sometimes they can travel between worlds, and that is why we have knowledge of them.

Just throwing my two rupees in...
Archmage

I don't know that everyone is saying that disabled people are monsters (seeing as how we are all disabled) but to me everything has some sort of explanation - there are two explanations to why monsters appear in every culture 1) they are real (this is possible and not something I am totally willing to rule out in some cases) or 2) they are exaggerations of natural phenomena (for example, gorillas were thought to be mythical beings until someone shot one in the late 1800s) - it is just interesting to think of which phenomena they might be exaggerations of . . .