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Greshym_Shorkan
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12 Dec 2009, 2:10 pm

Can somebody tell me why? Here:

I sit down at a table in the cafeteria that's gaming (I knew the person running the game, and asked in advance.) They're all writing up their game sheets, face down for the most part. I ask the host if it would be a good time to introduce myself. The one to my left yells, NO IT WOULDN'T GO AWAY. :roll: I ignored that one even though it did piss me off, but he started taking pot shots. It wasn't until I took up a threatening tone that he stopped his crap. There was some other crap that was said at that table, but I won't bother saying. I've gamed for almost ten years now, and I have to admit this garbage is fairly common, especially among younger gamers. This isn't about the games, so I put it on the social board.

What do you think? I find too many gamers to be blunt, selfish, immature jerks. Maybe I'm too sensitive to game? I'm almost ready to drop gaming altogether, because who wants to put up with their crap?



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12 Dec 2009, 3:46 pm

Some people just don't know any better. Honestly. Their folks just didn't teach them, or didn't know themselves.

It sounds like this guy that was so rude to you was insecure with his own place in the group. when someone else joins a group, everyone has to re jostle their places. That is why you were getting it from all sides in the 'warm up' period. they wanted to know if you were going to try to take over 1. the leader of the group dynamics, and 2. their place in the group dynamics.

Some people think kindness is weakness. That is a big mistake. :wink:

I think you did really well, though, considering.


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12 Dec 2009, 3:51 pm

Yes, gamers can be rude. I have found that most of the people who game-- I like their characters more than I like them! Not all, of course, but most. People who game also tend to be a bit socially awkward (imagine that!) and so you're going to deal with bluntness. Are there other, less grouchy groups, to get involved with? Also, when people are making characters they can be a bit more touchy than usual (it takes a lot of mental effort to come up with a good one!). Just a thought!


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12 Dec 2009, 4:01 pm

Okay, if you were there by the Game Master's invitation, then the other player was being an incredible jerkass. It's the GM's world - his word is Law. And, IMO, the GM should have been enforcing your welcome - if nothing else, by having some minor disaster befall the player's character until such time as the player straightened up (one of my old GMs had the Cosmic Beams - if you annoyed him, you could hear the Cosmic Beams creaking overhead, and if you kept it up, the Cosmic Ceiling would collapse on your head for massive damage. Randy Milholland, creator of Something*Positive, came up with "Rocks fall, everybody dies," which lives on in the card game Munchkin).

Personally, I blame online "RPGs" - you can badmouth the other players to your heart's content, and 90% of the time they never even know it. Some players seem to have trouble with the idea that in a PnP RPG, not only do you really have to play a character you have defined (as opposed to pushing around the pile of points the computer allows), but your interactions are with real human beings, not computer-controlled NPCs that never take offense at anything.

Sadly, though, it's not that new a phenomenon. Back in the day, before cRPGs, it was less common, but you still had rude players who would start conflict with other players, sometimes over things done in-character (I still remember the night one player got so mad he punched the host's refrigerator and stormed out - because my character had prevented his from doing something stupid that would have gotten us all killed).


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12 Dec 2009, 4:15 pm

Yeah, I agree with all you guys. And yeah, I think because a lot of gamers are used to the anonymity that online gaming gives, it transfers over to real life sometimes. If it gets outta hand, of course, I can always remind them that real life taunting can be more dangerous than the keyboard kind. j/k! 8)



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13 Dec 2009, 6:36 pm

Short Answer Yes. MMO gamers are the worse, ESP. EVE-Online Player and WOW players. Not ALL of them are as*holes, but alot of them are. I



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13 Dec 2009, 7:15 pm

Oh, you should have seen some of the s**t I had to put up with when I played Battlefield 1942 online multiplayer. The only reason people held back was because if you swore on the system chat you would get auto-kicked for a few minutes. The third party voice chat on Ventrilo was much worse because you didn't have the auto-ban on the voice chat. All it would take is some n00b getting shot once too many times, he'd accuse one of the senior players of teh haxxors and before you know it you'd have one shitstorm of a flame war.

I've heard Xbox Live players are the worst when it comes to respect, but I don't know because I don't own an Xbox.


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13 Dec 2009, 11:41 pm

Yes, a lot of us are... Especially MMO players and FPS players.

If you go play halo on xbox live, expect some 7 year old kid to call you gay in a not so nice way...


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14 Dec 2009, 12:51 am

This is precisely the reason I stick to SP gaming, besides which I hate to be labelled ret*d by some bunch of idiots who happen to be in favour that week(the epithet they apply would be most apposite if directed at them, for they simply don't think through what the real soncept of gaming is: to have fun, to enjoy the experience); I try to enjoy the game and do my best and play fair etc, it's just packed with hackers and mob rule to my mind.

I haven't honestly done a whole lot of online gaming(6 months worth), SW: Republic Commandos servers are generally what spring to mind though.



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15 Dec 2009, 12:13 am

Tach wrote:
Yes, a lot of us are... Especially MMO players and FPS players.

If you go play halo on xbox live, expect some 7 year old kid to call you gay in a not so nice way...


Wait until they get quiet, and then ask them "Do you know what the fallopian tubes are?". Trolling is fun! :lol:



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15 Dec 2009, 10:21 am

No now shut up you freak'n no0b before I pwn you!


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15 Dec 2009, 8:21 pm

Eggman wrote:
No now shut up you freak'n no0b before I pwn you!


There, that's exactly what they said to me; or rather spammed and to everyone not part of the clique, who do they think they are?

We're all gamers...



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16 Dec 2009, 12:39 am

I think most people are rude the most on Online games. I think the sense of hiding behind anonymous paper bag gives them a sort of power and right that they are better then other people. I wish people on Online games were a lot more respectful.

But I guess a lot of rude gamers are there, is because they want to have a sense of control. They want to have some sort of say.

Then again I try online and everywhere else I go to be respectful to those who want to fight me.



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16 Dec 2009, 4:48 am

I believe most NT's should stay away from console games, it either makes them depressive or annoying, like most of the NT friends I have, they appear to be spazzy.



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16 Dec 2009, 11:37 am

yeah lol they'll do that, i just think that they themselves are so unconfident in the outside world that they become a 8 ft badass body building bad man from the comfort of their keyboard, or theyre just venting anger lol :lol:


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16 Dec 2009, 1:38 pm

Rude behavior is everywhere you go, and gamers arent exclusive to that at all (being a gamer myself). Like any social event, you have those who are "elitists," who have been doing this "thing" for a long time, and treat all new players as below them. These are the people most others frown upon and have nothing to do with. Luckily, they arent that common, but they are the most vocal (first to throw an insult when the opportunity arises). The best thing you can do is just ignore them and move on.