Why do white Europeans have so few kids?

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Why do white Europeans have so few kids? I guess they don't mind their culture being taken over by Muslims immigrating here and having so many kids.

Do most of them even realize they are on a course towards cultural suicide? Or maybe they don't care?

It costs a lot to raise a child. The Muslims cost share by raising children in a large household with extended family. Built in baby sitting and all that.

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It depends on the parents' expectations of how much they want to provide the kid. Statistically, poor families have more kids so the cost per raising a kid would be a lot less than families with one kid and both parents working.

I'm guessing that Waterloo, ON is Ontario, Canada. So unless you're simply a racist permitting the wind to blow his tongue (hmmm, suppose that doesn't work so well when typing) I'm assuming you have a certain quantity of research (seeing as you don't appear to even reside in Europe) to back up the assertions that a) European birth rates are low enough to precipitate the end of their respective societies and/or b) Immigration from the Islamic world is realtively high compared to immigration from other cultures and/or is high enough to warrant the belief they will become a majority in europe before any particular change in either culture not caused by birth rates/immigration and c) That immigrants intend to (or have anything approaching or conscious desire toward) 'take over' - which honestly would be an astonishing feat, if they achieved that having gotten here in the conditions they have I would simply have to hold my hands up and say 'hey, withy that level of determination, fortitude and resourcefulness we're better off with you guys in charge - go right ahead'.

I get the impression that you've just had a little spasm of islamophobia and that this bout of racism will pass once your blood sugar level drops - though it may also be that you're a committed racist and first you'll attract all the other racists on WP here before i can say 'fascist' then i'll have another opportunity to wipe the floor with the dribbling-from-the-corner-of-your-mouth that passes for arguments on the far right.

I never said there was anything wrong with Muslims settling in Europe and yes, it is a well known fact that white Europeans don't have enough kids to replace themselves. The birthrate in all of the European Union is 1.38. The replacement level is 2.1. And yes I am from Waterloo, Ontario and for your information I'm not even White. I'm Chinese. Look at my name, jc6chan.

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Why have more children then you can take of?

I'm not worried about any human group dying out. I'm more worried that we'll keep exploding in numbers and starve ourselves off the planet. If any particular group decides to have fewer children, for whatever reason, I applaud them.

I suspect that those who choose to have fewer children usually do so because they have a high level of education, and/or a high level of self-esteem, and/or don't adhere to a religion that instructs them (or a culture that expects them) to "be fruitful and multiply" and discourages birth control.

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We are talking about less than 2 on average. I don't think 2 kids are that much to handle is it?

Children are a huge responsibility -- even one child. Maybe many parents don't realize that, and maybe that's why there are so many troubled kids and adults.

I for one wouldn't want to be expected to have a certain number of children just to fill a population quota. It's up to individuals to decide, and something has prompted some people to have less need or desire to reproduce. In my opinion it's a healthy thing on such a crowded planet.

I get the impression JC6 ahs been watching a certain video that spread about a few months ago.

For the polite refutation there is the BBC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINChFxRXQs

For a less polite, more shouty refutation there is this chap in two parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74gliTYBtWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqxl546UWzw

less people polluting the environment

I apologise for my mistake, however, this: 'Why do white Europeans have so few kids? I guess they don't mind their culture being taken over by Muslims immigrating here and having so many kids' is almost word for word the standard propaganda line of the British National Party (a white supremacist, deeply racist organisation passing itself off as a political party).

I don't see how looking at your username should have occurred to me, applying that to mine would tell you I'm an Epicurean Ghostbuster.



that looks completely incorrect to me - more kids in poor families simply means more kids raised in poverty conditions, that is the sentence should be the amount spent per child would be less than families with one kid. The majority of abortions take place in low and very low income families because the extra child would break the back of the family and hurl all into (often abject) poverty, not in the 'single career woman' demographic as is frequently put out in the US.

Thanks for those links. I was unaware of that video. Whether that is what prompted JC6 to post or not, it seems like the same fear mongering (more of the same here in the US), that has gone on ever since 9/11, the kind of fear mongering that causes wars and hate crimes, and loss of personal freedom. Please, not more of that.

I lived in a neighborhood in Southern California where a mosque was built during the time I lived there. It was a lot less like an invasion of another culture than it was actually an improvement. Less crime, more peace, people minding their own business. Quieter neighbors. An Aspie's dream for their neighborhood, if you will.

I don't understand this fear of one group disappearing while another increases. People are people. One group isn't more dispensable than another, or more valuable than another. Populations shift and change over time. White Europeans overran the Americas, centuries ago, in some cases exterminating indigenous people through violence and disease, in other cases enslaving them. The same thing happened in parts of Africa and the Middle East. I don't see that happening in Europe today with any incursion of Muslims. I'm not there, so maybe I don't get this concern, but I haven't seen anything in the news to indicate that's happening. There are much more important things to worry about, such as whether everyone in the world will have enough fresh water in the future. Real problems, I mean.

I don't see this as a problem.

If the European Christians ever get really worried, they'll probably do what they did to the last religious minority - start a huge war and murder millions of them in death camps.

Now do you see why this kind of scaremongering is dangerous?

I don't agree with everything the BNP stands for

cost of raising a child is a paraphrase of the amount spent per child