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hi I am a 16 year old Goth I love death and heavy metal I like alternative stuff I adore Gothic industrial I cross dress occasionally I think its a bit of fun my dress style is all black from the bottom black leather steal toe caps (there a bit broken of engineering and the post box incident)black skinny jeans black top with designs on it ether band or something that looks awesome^.^ and for my jacket I ether where a trench coat with buckles in this weather atm I am wearing an antique railway coat because its so thick if you think I am interesting and like to get in touch my msn is [email protected]

I used to be called a "Doomer" back when
I was a teen, I guess now they call it "Goth"?

Weird how things change.

I do however dress in all black on Valenbane's
Day for all those who mourn that horrid day.

The music us Doomers listened to was stuff
like "Bauhaus", "The Cure", "Type O Negative"
"The Damned".

I just discovered "Nightwish" a couple of
years ago and I really like them.

Those we4re some great Doomer bands,
what do you guys listen to these days?

One thing I LOVED doing was dressing in my
all black clothing and telling those who ask me
why I did. Especially on Valenbane's Day when
those godawful "hopeless romantics" wore red
and got all mishy mushy yucky, and I would laugh
at them. I painted my claws black as well. Heck
I even smoked the clove fags/cigarettes as well.
but not for style, I just liked how they tasted
and smelled.

well I listen to disturbed occasionally I love deathstars him iron maiden and rammstein:) and what's Valenbane's Day?

Fun to remember. There were no goths back then, just a congregation of the strange, so we shared across more music styles than goths would. I liked how my friend, guitarist in our band, would call us... We were an IDR band... "intense, depressive realism".

The bands I listened to would never be considered goth, but were much darker, I think. The OnlyOnes, Strangers, Suicide, Magazine, PIL, Vibrators, forgotten rebels, john foxx, robert fripp... later diamanda galas and concrete blonde

Now I have a penchant for cartoon goth. Listen to Tom Waits (a wonderfully dark old man) and publish academic articles on vampires in historical contexts. I used to co-edit and journal of dracula studies with my friend elizabeth (though that's her area).

By the time I was in my 20s, it was more fun to explore gothicism. I studied anti-enlightenment ideas from the 17th and 18th century... the poetry of william blake, and particularly Edward Young. Blake's Marriage of heaven and hell is particularly great because he believed that creative energy was closer to god than the rules of organized religion. And Young's "Night Thoughts (The Complaint: or Night-Thoughts on Life, Death & Immortality) is really the first great poem written at midnight, in storms, by the light of a candle burning in a human skull, while everyone around you is dead. Everyone else after blake and young were wannabies to me, back then, and I still admire their authenticity.

I used to tease the goths, especially when I became a prof., for not knowing where the ideas and thoughts that they were presenting came from, and missing the fact that who ever was popular at the moment was just coping someone even more interesting in the past.

I never dressed up to disrupt or confuse people. I did that no matter what I was wearing or doing. But I have always had an aspie's issues with colours and patterns on clothes, as well as the textures of cloths. I can only wear cotton... so black jeans of one brand and cut; only fluevog boots/shoes; dark or black clothes. But I try to add a bit of colour so as to not completely scare my students.

The good test of someone's gothiness is if they just give it up and change when they grow (then it is a fad or phase) or if it morphs and grows along with them, leaving little hints and markers behind.

coolz about your band what are you a professor of id love to be taught by you and have you ever hurd of a band cauld apocaliptica?

Hello there. I make industrial musickz if that counts...

yep it dose count whats the name of your band?

My brother and me like rammstein and dimmer borgir zorry
I can't spell it.

Valenbane's Day is this stupid un-holiday most call "Valentine's Day"
But I call it ValenBane's Day because it is the bane
of all days, it is a stupid idiotic pointless day invented
by Hallmark Cards to bilk people out of their money.

wooooo rammstein and valentines day is a bit sh***y at the best of tomes i just dres like i do any day to me it isnot deserving after a roman .

Experiment Haywire. It's a solo project. I don't get along with the humans so the band thing doesn't work. Haha.

Have you been to VampireFreaks? Largest goth/industrial site on the net. The administer there has a personal vendetta against me due to industry drama but here's my profile if you'd like to be friends:

http://vampirefreaks.com/experimenthaywire

I've been accepting the goth label more since, well, the style/music *does* appeal to me.

That, and if I deny being goth, the labelers tend to start calling me emo, instead.

But, in general, the NT goths I know really really turn me off. They love drama, they feed on it, and I have enough crap happening that I don't have time for made up stuff.

I used to call myself a vampire freak, and then that awful website came out so I guess I'll stick to goth. :p


I probably look like a pretentious s**t wearing my Irlen lenses at night, though. They're a dark color so it probably looks like I'm trying to be awesomez.
[Don't ever mess with the guy in the shades - oh no! <--- this is going to be stuck in my head for hours now]

i havent been on it in so long ile go on it now and add you

Try working in a genre full of NT goth/industrial musicians and getting your career ruined because of your eccentric behaviors and mannerisms. Yeeeeah. Aspie goths need to unite.

VampireFreaks is extremely corrupt from the top. The administrator only promotes the bands that he's friends with and makes sure the bands on the "uncool list" don't get any promotion. Yet for some reason I still have a huge following there and a solid group of supporters. He banned me from the message boards for talking about a neo-nazi artist who was attacking me (one of his best friends) and slandered me to the entire website for his own amusement. He also gets young girls to take off their clothes and write "VampireFreaks" on their boobs in exchange for premium membership.

All of this being said it is still the biggest goth/industrial website on the internet and I'd be happy to connect with other aspie goths there.

I find the fact that you are all labeling yourselves rather ridiculous, and a bit humorous.

Goth can be a style of music. Therefore, labeling yourself as a style of music is silly and implies you are narrow-minded enough to listen to only one genre anyway.

It's the genre I work in. As for everyone else here it's an adjective. People with AS aren't stupid enough to define themselves by a subculture. Chill out.

Quite obviously they are, and can be-- on both accounts of being able to be stupid, and defining themselves by a subculture.