is having 2 people in 1 one body normal 4 as kids ?
I'm not going mad, but my 9 yr old as son has recently been acting very strange & it's scary.
When J is on his own he talks 2 him self as tho he is 2 different people , a good j & a bad J, if he has had a bad day. J came home from school yesterday & had worked well in the morning but in the afternoon he was terrible, he came home crying saying he had been dragged out of his after school art club by his teacher (this was a lie because we phoned the school & his art teacher was waiting 4 him), while he was getting changed J started talking normally 2 himself then started shouting that he can be good & he is fed up of always being in trouble & bullied, then he started talking normally again.It's like there is some one else the room with him, & it's as if he want's 2 punsh him self 4 bad behavior.
2day i let J play out after school as a reward 4 good behavior at school, all i said was stay on the pavement and don't play on the road because of the car's, he went out crying & talking 2 him self.
I am totally lost . Should i just let J get on with things the way he no's how or should i keep trying to intervene . J change's his story's every time u speak 2 him & still lie's constantly.
I wish i could get inside his mind so i can understand him better.
Nothing wrong with talking to yourself. I'm more concerned about those that dont. If you're concerned talk to someone. Ask people who see him in other settings. Get opinions. Thinking things outside your head and talking to yourself back and forth is not a sign of being crazy in my honest opinion. I dont see anything wrong with it myself. People work things out differently.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: is having 2 people in 1 one body normal 4 as kids ? Reply with quote
I'm not going mad, but my 9 yr old as son has recently been acting very strange & it's scary.
Most aspies are viewed as scarry, so I read on......!
Ok!
Hmmmmm?
How would you feel if you couldn't convey your thoughts and feelings to others,
and if you try you are ignored! or subjected to a shutup, or be-quiet! It would
sound like a natural defense. You try being in his shoes.......But I will read on.....!
Again! you try being in his shoes! rejected, hushed and ignored??????
Self-defensive!
I am totally lost Confused .
Hmmmmm?
1)...j let out to play
2)...crying over simple instructions
3)...Feeling controlled in all part of his life or expression?
I wish i could get inside his mind so i can understand him better.
Try a psychologist first!
Sincerely,
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Actual cases of "multiple personality disorder" are very rare.
It is very unlikely that this has anything to do with another personality.
He is probably talking to himself, possibly role playing, because he is having trouble working out his feelings, and this may be a more comfortable way for him to do it right now.
I don't think that this is something serious to worry about.
Maybe he needs to talk to someone that can help him understand his emotions.
Hi
I am AS. I can only tell you what my sensory dysfunction does to me. I do talk to myself and sometimes in an animated way. I am practising or repeating conversations I heard or were a part of during that day. If I go over the conversation I can make more sense out of it. I try to figure out what the hidden emotional content might have been so I can use it in the future.
When I was a teen I did have an alternate. I called him Contact, he was separate from me. If I was frustrated or confused I use to imagine he would step in to help. It was a coping strategy. I think pretty harmless. I use to rate my days and call them (in my diary) days when my brain wouldn't co-operate. It must seem very strange today, now that I am older and realize other people are not like this.
It sounds from the conversations J is having, there is alot of negative stuff going on. I would want to monitor that. You also need to tell J to practise repeating or creating responses quietly, but I wouldn't stop. What J learns from these exercises will help. I use to work on this stuff at night, that was worse because I use to wake up really tired. Ask J why he does this, he might just like the sound of the words or he might be trying to develop a stronger self to cope.
It's a shame everything on TV is so violent. If I were looking for an "alternate" today I would probably pick Electra or Bebe from Kill Bill and probably scare the pants off my parents.
Good Luck
Jetgirl
When J is on his own he talks 2 him self as tho he is 2 different people , a good j & a bad J, if he has had a bad day. J came home from school yesterday & had worked well in the morning but in the afternoon he was terrible, he came home crying saying he had been dragged out of his after school art club by his teacher (this was a lie because we phoned the school & his art teacher was waiting 4 him), while he was getting changed J started talking normally 2 himself then started shouting that he can be good & he is fed up of always being in trouble & bullied, then he started talking normally again.It's like there is some one else the room with him, & it's as if he want's 2 punsh him self 4 bad behavior.
2day i let J play out after school as a reward 4 good behavior at school, all i said was stay on the pavement and don't play on the road because of the car's, he went out crying & talking 2 him self.
I am totally lost . Should i just let J get on with things the way he no's how or should i keep trying to intervene . J change's his story's every time u speak 2 him & still lie's constantly.
I wish i could get inside his mind so i can understand him better.
fox, no need to worry about anything like Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder) or anything like that. That disorder is due to heavy duty abuse/trauma and requires a component of amnesia. My mother is MPD, trust me. Don't worry.
Your son sounds like a very normal imaginative Asperger boy. Talking to oneself, for an Aspie, is very common and you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Clearly he's developed a way of censoring himself-- I do this in fact myself and am constantly talking and even arguing two sides of a point to myself, or addressing myself in a reassuring manner when I'm upset.
The only thing you'd have to worry about is if it ever becomes a problem for him doing this in public and it starts hurting him more than helping him. Then probably something like some mild Behavioral Therapy would help him curb this behavior to doing it in more acceptable environments.
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My 10 y/o talks to himself all the time. Especially, when he is angry with me or his step-dad. I think it's his way of working it out. I used to do this too when I was little. I would sit in front of the mirror and replay all the bad things people had said or did to me. I would talk for them and myself until it was out of my system. I was bullied a lot and had a very unhappy childhood, so I talked to myself a lot!
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I still talk to myself sometimes especcially when stressed and need to sort my thoughts out, now the two people things is a little weird but I think hes just debating with himself about things and needs to get things right. If he has a phycolgist you might want to see his opinion (or talked to the school one kinda causually) but dont worry too much about it.
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Thanks for yr support & advice everyone, i'm so glad i came accross this web site, i've been learning so much about as just from this site .
I asked J about talking 2 himself and J said it helps calm him down which is fine, we all have our own ways of copeing, it was the first time J had come home so upset from school & when he started talking 2 himself, i was a little worried.I'll watch J's progress & mention it 2 his teacher.
I still talk to myself all the time while I am working, most of the time it is exclaiming, "oh I found it" I also do it while cleaning etc. When I am pissed, I yell and rant. My poor ex hubby thought I was yelling at him..
Don't worry it is normal for some of us.
If he has voices in his head yelling at him or hallucinations I would get it checked out. We can have psychosis as well, plus there are a few other diagnoses that can be with AS that can cause psychotic like symptoms if the person is stressed out enough.
The best bet is if he isn't harming himself or others, just let him do his thing you both will be probably happier for it.
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That isn't anything like multiple personality, I grew up in a house with an MPD and have studied it extensively. I would take the child to the psych., because most things that would cause this kind of behavior don't show signs until the person is much older. I can't fathom what it would be.
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That is because in order to have MPD the child has to suffer ongoing extreme physical and or sexual abuse before the age of four for it to develop.
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I asked J about talking 2 himself and J said it helps calm him down which is fine, we all have our own ways of copeing, it was the first time J had come home so upset from school & when he started talking 2 himself, i was a little worried.I'll watch J's progress & mention it 2 his teacher.
I am learning lots from this site as well, fox! What a blessing! And, good, good, good! It sounds like you've gotten a typical answer from your son regarding why he's carrying on conversations with himself. Our 7 yr. old son sort of does the same thing. It seems to help him figure some things out for himself when we're not able to explain things to his understanding/liking. I agree with others; if it's not hurting him or anyone else, don't worry about it, especially if it's actually helping him cope and calm himself. You're going to monitor it and talk to his teacher so you're doing all the right things!
God bless ya!
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I don't think there is anything to worry about. I talk to myself all the time, sometimes laying in bed for an hour and having intense conversations with myself, asking a question and then answering back, as if I was actually speaking to somebody else. I imagine it's some sort of dissociative thing, but then so is daydreaming, and I doubt if it has anything to do with MPD. I'm 31, and I have been doing this as far back as I can remember. I do this much more rapidly when stressed, which then it becames a driving compulsion. When I drive a car, I do this too. Like, I'll sort of converse with myself in the car. I really doubt if it is anything to worry about, though it could be a sign of withdrawal. I would just keep an eye out, like if he starts drifting away into himself and refuses to speak to you or anyone else. I know from personal experience how that feels. And it's a good feeling, at least it was in my case, but it's not good if it consumes every part of your life.
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