The Repubs have a house majority now

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Greshym_Shorkan
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20 Jan 2010, 3:07 am

Bye-bye health care bill (this is bad in my book.)



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20 Jan 2010, 3:40 am

The Senate, not the House, lost one Democratic seat to a Republican. This does not give the Republicans a majority. It gives the Republicans enough votes to filibuster any bills they don't like and the Democrats won't have enough votes to end the filibuster. If the Republicans can win a Senate seat in ultra-liberal Massachussetts then they can win quite a few House and Senate seats this November.


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20 Jan 2010, 6:51 am

Metal_Man wrote:
The Senate, not the House, lost one Democratic seat to a Republican. This does not give the Republicans a majority. It gives the Republicans enough votes to filibuster any bills they don't like and the Democrats won't have enough votes to end the filibuster. If the Republicans can win a Senate seat in ultra-liberal Massachussetts then they can win quite a few House and Senate seats this November.


Very simply put, it means the Independent Voters of Massachusetts have had a gut full of Lord Obama. It is impossible for Republicans to win the office of dog-catcher in Massachusetts unless the Independents vote for him. Bad news for Lord Obama and his corrupt Cronies. Good news (maybe) for the United States in the 2012 bi-election.

Time will tell.

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20 Jan 2010, 8:28 am

What this really means is that now, if the Dems what a health care bill, they will either have to openly cram it down our throats (as opposed to close door Christmas Eve votes when no one is watching) or will have to actually negotiate with some of the moderate republicans such as Olympia Snowe.

Personally, I think that gridlock may be the best thing for the Congress.



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20 Jan 2010, 8:48 am

Greshym_Shorkan wrote:
Bye-bye health care bill (this is bad in my book.)


The Republicans are a minority in both houses of Congress.

The only good news is that the Health Bill can be philibustered in the Senate.

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20 Jan 2010, 10:15 am

The Healthcare Bill... Well, if the healthcare bill isn't really effective, but I guess there should be some direction.

And even with a delay, there should be a direction pointing to universal coverage in healthcare, because more and more of us are getting uninsured...


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20 Jan 2010, 10:42 am

although im not american i do follow the news closely.

seems to me you need a new party. im a liberal so i think you need a progressive party. the democrats are corrupt and the republicans even more so.


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20 Jan 2010, 10:51 am

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20 Jan 2010, 2:14 pm

No need to go back to the Senate. The House can simply approve the Senate's version (granted, the majority in the House was slim, but the Speaker can strongarm some of the reluctant Dems as this is a do-or-die issue for the Administration).

A less palatable alternative would be to force this through during the 10-15 days left before the Senator-elect can be certified, but the optics of that are simply terrible.


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20 Jan 2010, 2:34 pm

senates version is terrible


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20 Jan 2010, 2:41 pm

Nooooooooooooooo!! !! !! !

I say we the people stand up against these tyrannical bureaucrats and send them straight to the guillotine! :ninja:


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20 Jan 2010, 3:05 pm

Ok, my earlier version of this post got deleted due to some intense feelings so here's a version that's cleaned up. I hate both Republicans and Democrats and don't expect anything out of them ever except corporate serving policies.I also dislike Ron Paul and think he is also very pro-corporate.



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20 Jan 2010, 3:48 pm

To a scandinavian it's almost impossible to fathom how such an otherwise great country can have such a terrible, grotesquely poor health care system where people end up in debt for having to pay their medical bills, the citizens have to pay for necessary surgery out of their own pockets and where poor people fight to get decent treatment at all. It amazes me that the American people hasn't revolted against this tragic system yet. Why do you accept this? :?:



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20 Jan 2010, 3:58 pm

Jaydee wrote:
To a scandinavian it's almost impossible to fathom how such an otherwise great country can have such a terrible, grotesquely poor health care system where people end up in debt for having to pay their medical bills, the citizens have to pay for necessary surgery out of their own pockets and where poor people fight to get decent treatment at all. It amazes me that the American people hasn't revolted against this tragic system yet. Why do you accept this? :?:


Because they've got ammos, guns and they're bigger and faster than us... :(


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20 Jan 2010, 5:05 pm

I do support health care reform of some sort, since, to put it bluntly, our current health care system sucks. The concept of universal health coverage sounds very attractive to me, since it seems to work for every other industrialized nation in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. :wink:



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20 Jan 2010, 5:08 pm

Why are so many Americans against the Health Care Bill? The NHS is a life line to many in the UK, I really cannot see any reason to oppose it;