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Don't a lot of people blame vaccines for autism?
How legitimate are those claims?

Not at all legitimate.

I never heard this claim before, but it doesn't seem to be legitimate by any means.

I'm surprised.

There's a very long story behind it. Long story shory, a doctor faked a whole bunch of results in a study to the effect that the MMR vaccine causes autism. He was being payed off by people in a lawsuite against the people who make the MMR vaccine. He single handedly caused the return of the measles to Britan. The study was retracted, but sadly, many people still believe that vaccines cause autism, and put their children at terrible risk by foregoing it.

The first time I actually ran into this claim was a pediatrician that wasn't my own railing at me for not having my sons vaccinations up to date. The funny thing is I'd been calling that peditrician to try and get an appointment to catch him up and we were only behind because I didn't have the money and there had been a gap in our health insurance for three months. They worked out of the same office so I think the moment he saw in my son's file that he has aspergers he jumped to the conclusion that I'd stopped the vaccinations after the diagnoses especially since I'd turned down a flu shot a month before (because he already had gotten one for free at my job >_<). I don't know what parent made him so jumpy about it, but man they must have been parnoid.

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Not. They were debunked.
~Kate

Well, Im not inclined to believe it has been truely debunked, nor will I fully accept that it might be true. One thing for damn sure I will say is that I think the idea of pumping thiomersal into us sure in the hell can't help matters much.

It was debunked, and one of the scientists in the UK who promoted the theory has been taken to court for Serious Professional Misconduct.

Those claims are just as legitimate as the claims that creationism should be taught as science (which is to say, not legitimate whatsoever).

Thermisol is NO LONGER IN ANY SHOTS except flu shots. So if that was the cause of Autism why are the rates going UP not DOWN?

Personally, I believe what "single-handedly" brought measles back to Britain was a -dependence- on vaccines. The measles death rate dropped by 97% before the vaccine for it ever existed. If people had a healthier diet (as opposed to food filled with garbage such as processes goods), and proper exposure to things like vitamin D3 (our body doesn't always get enough), combined with normal levels of sleep and exercise, then I bet it would be a lot better than vaccines. Relying on your body to build immunity is a natural and more reliable method than vaccines, which doesn't properly trigger the immune system anyway.

Thimerosal was only accused of the cause due to mercury. This is a reasonable claim, especially since the levels they put in the shots exceeded safety amounts. Whether or not it caused it is irrelevant to me though.

I have however read an article talking about how the flu introduced to a developing child in the womb (tested on rats though) could produce autistic like offspring. That means that perhaps it was not the mercury but instead it was a bacterial introduction at ages of a developing brain and immune system that could trigger autism. Who knows?

Either way, I'm not too concerned of the results, but am interested in which is actually true. It is unfortunate though that so many companies play games for profit. In this case it would help to make vaccines look safer so they can get more sales. The swine flu didn't go as expected for vaccination rates so it would only make sense to push vaccine safety more.

It is as debunked as it can be. Though statistics can never , I repeat never, prove something.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/opinion/post/- ... 6#comments

Can you please provide proof of this claim that the measles death rate dropped by 97% before the vaccine existed as this goes against everything I have read on infectious disease including textbooks assigned during my pathological basis of infectious disease course at university.




Thimerosal contains a relatively inactive and harmless compound of mercury which doesn't build up in the body and is excreted out of the body within about 18 days. The level of it in vaccines did not exceed safety amounts or else the vaccines would have never been introduced. Thimerosal was removed from vaccines not because it was dangerous but because a more effective adjunct was discovered.



Can you provide a link to this article that shows how introducing the flu virus to a developing fetus causes autistic like traits as I would be interested to read about this study?
If introducing viruses to humans caused autism every single person on this planet would be autistic, not just those that have had vaccines (if you want to believe that nonsense). Think about how many viruses you are exposed to every single day. This viral load far exceeds any vaccine dose you would ever receive.