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Right_Honourable_Weyoun
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18 Mar 2006, 10:45 pm

Let us not delude ourselves: Autism and it many derivatives is a disease, an epidemic which we inflict on our future generations by not stamping it out. It causes its sufferers to lack that certain Natural Domination which humans, by right, have over their environments and nature. In fact, it renders them, to some degree, incapable of distinguishing between themselves and their surroundings.
I am not saying we should cure autism (I know the connotation you place on that concept) for it is impossible. Rather, we should prevent its spread to our children and their children. Those who have it should refrain from having children, and in fact sterilize themselves. It is the only moral thing to do.
Please do not accuse me of genocide, for that is not what I advocate.



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18 Mar 2006, 11:11 pm

Ummm.... how about no? Will no suffice as an answer? I may be deluded but I refuse to call myself diseased. I am not weak and I am not inferior. Like all beings I have my flaws but I also have my strengths and I am firmly convinced that my strengths are greater than my weaknesses and that my victories overcome my vices. Besides, we are the superior race, why would we want to end ourselves? Read the revolution thread. :D



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18 Mar 2006, 11:20 pm

Besides, advoting that we should destroy ourselves as a group is too broad of a policy for too much potential. This is a group of intelligent people with great potential for self-improvement and as much of a right to exist as any group. In fact, I would claim that there are greater losers out there than us and at the very least I would like to maintain my ability to breed. I feel that I should be able to breed so long as I can support the creatures that I am responsible for the creation of. I plan on being capable of supporting them if I choose to have them.



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18 Mar 2006, 11:21 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Ummm.... how about no? Will no suffice as an answer? I may be deluded but I refuse to call myself diseased. I am not weak and I am not inferior. Like all beings I have my flaws but I also have my strengths and I am firmly convinced that my strengths are greater than my weaknesses and that my victories overcome my vices. Besides, we are the superior race, why would we want to end ourselves? Read the revolution thread. :D


I agree when would innovation be without people like us you'd live an a stagnant boring world



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18 Mar 2006, 11:32 pm

I think people with IQs below 100 (read: yourself) should castrate themselves.

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18 Mar 2006, 11:34 pm

Well, I can't really tell all of the innovation that we have made.... well there was that one dude whose name I forgot, but he did an interview on WrongPlanet. Then there is a famous economist who I think teaches at George Mason university... he's Vernon something I think and then there are a few actors and such. I really honestly don't know all of the people but my point is that we can make it in this world and there is no point in us destroying ourselves out of the fear that we are failures due to our genetics. I believe that I am not a failure and I believe that if I choose to have children that they won't be failures either, therefore, I believe that there is no reason why I shouldn't have children if I am willing to put in the efforts and resources necessary in raising them.



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18 Mar 2006, 11:39 pm

Quincunx wrote:
I think people with IQs below 100 (read: yourself) should castrate themselves.

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Ok, ending the breeding of people with IQ below 100 is a more sensible policy than ending the breeding of aspies. People below average cannot rise to glory like we can.... well, they can be popular stars but still they will always be intellectual lightweights.



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18 Mar 2006, 11:41 pm

please do not feed the trolls.



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18 Mar 2006, 11:53 pm

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please do not feed the trolls.

Why not? It is fun, besides he could really think that. We have all been insecure about ourselves and as aspies we are more likely to blame that aspect of ourselves for our problems. We are just adding new perspective to the situation.



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19 Mar 2006, 12:12 am

Quincunx wrote:
I think people with IQs below 100 (read: yourself) should castrate themselves.

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I love the juxtaposition of an insult and the words "Kind regards". :)


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19 Mar 2006, 12:20 am

to me this sounds slighly Nazi you cannot be bias in this world other wise you will turn uncomfortable and alone.


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19 Mar 2006, 12:59 am

Well, i'm all for the sterilization of people we decide are genetically harmful to our species, but i think we need to learn a lot more about genetics in general and biochemistry before we actually decide in good conscience what really IS bad for us genetically. Just because people with autism or aspergers may suffer, doesn't mean that we are genetically harmful to our species.

In fact, making such an assumption may REALLY f**k us over. We could destroy a potentially beneficial gene by wiping out autistics and aspergers.


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19 Mar 2006, 2:12 am

We should never have shown NTs how to make and use fire; or create balls for them to play with; or invented any of the myriad things they currently take for granted. Because they sure couldn't have come up with the ideas themselves! :x
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19 Mar 2006, 2:18 am

I am an aspie supremist, effectively. And as much as i'd like to chock up every innovation to aspies and auties contributions, i think that is a bit of an arrogant stretch of the imagination.


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19 Mar 2006, 4:46 am

Right_Honourable_Weyoun wrote:
Let us not delude ourselves: Autism and it many derivatives is a disease, an epidemic which we inflict on our future generations by not stamping it out. It causes its sufferers to lack that certain Natural Domination which humans, by right, have over their environments and nature. In fact, it renders them, to some degree, incapable of distinguishing between themselves and their surroundings.I am not saying we should cure autism (I know the connotation you place on that concept) for it is impossible. Rather, we should prevent its spread to our children and their children. Those who have it should refrain from having children, and in fact sterilize themselves. It is the only moral thing to do.
Please do not accuse me of genocide, for that is not what I advocate.



Right. Disease. Disease it ain't. Why do you stereotype us as diseased when we are perfectly healthy! Is Spina Bifida a disease? Is Downs a disease? No. You pride yourself on genetics when this plays a role. There is no germ that can do this. Do the research mate, before you stereotype us with bulls*** like this.

Natural Domination? Are you saying we are not human? Are you saying we are not sentient beings? Whoa no. We are VERY aware of how different we are. We are ACUTELY aware of this. This is why WP is here. We know we are different. We are the same as you. No lesser, perhaps GREATER than you. Ever heard of Albert Einstein? Should we forget the theory of relativity just because, in your opinion, he was a "less than human?"

Not saying we should cure autism? Not saying genocide? "You diseased scum should sterilise yourselves" is not curing or promoting genocide? Right. That doesn't make sense. If you're so afraid of us, why the hell are you here with your neo-nazi opinions on us. You are being overly self rightous here, and it's p***ing me off. Moral? You're the unmoral one here.


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19 Mar 2006, 4:55 am

genetic purification -> inbreeding


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