Twilight... I'm mystified, and I have to ask...

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01 Jul 2010, 4:02 pm

Why do so many women drool over these two incredibly homely men? Why am I bothering about it? I ask myself this. It's just a thing I do... when a huge group of people love something that I dislike for some reason it rubs me the wrong way. Live and let live, I tell myself... But it isn't that they like it. Let them like it. There are Elvis fans the world over that don't bother me in the least, people who enjoy mint, or raisins, or Cher...

But it's just that every time I check my Facebook, my silly niece has a post up gushing about one or the other of these genetic throwbacks (she also puts up regular posts wondering when her prince charming will come along, it's pretty hard to stomach all the way around). When my kids watch tv, there are commercials with old women stealing Twilight toys to fuel their obsession (yeah, at least they're making fun of it, but still). And the commercials they have for all movies these days, with the same old lines in them, everything is a danged event, a big deal... dude, it's a 2 hour film. Such a lot of fuss... So Mary Shelley's body (or something like that) is walking around without its brain, gushing over guys that look like Percy Shelley and Lord Byron? Oh, no indeed... Shark Boy and Cedric Diggory... Shark Boy looks like they just pumped him up a little and now he's an adult, same caveman mug, and Cedric looks like he's been run over a few times and brought back from the dead with electrodes and in his close-up on the movie review page you could SEE the foundation on his skin... Aren't they dreamy?!?!?!

Alright, I feel better now. I suppose the trouble is, summed up, that the whole nonsense would be silly enough (but no big deal, it's always something) if they really were hotties, but they flex muscles and look severe, respectively, and ladies swoon, and it puzzles me.


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01 Jul 2010, 4:25 pm

It is because the books were written so that stupid people would be able to read the horribly cliched, unoriginal and just not good books. The films plots are the same way, made in an easy to understand fashion for idiots.



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01 Jul 2010, 4:37 pm

Xenu wrote:
It is because the books where written so that stupid people are able to read the horribly cliched and unoriginal and just not good books. The films plots are the same way, made in an easy to understand fashion for idiots.


Precisely.



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01 Jul 2010, 4:38 pm

The only thing original about the book is the idea that a vampire lives in a forest, doesn't drink blood, and sparkles in the sun. Except that's not a vampire... that's a blooming Fairy! Fairies are what girls like; and unicorns. When I was in grade school I remembered most of my female classmates covered their binders with fairy and unicorn stickers. But in our increasingly jaded culture teenage girls have also taken a liking to darkly things like Vampires and werewolves. The only original thing Stephenie Meyer did was blend vampires (something evil) with fairies (something good) into one.


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01 Jul 2010, 4:45 pm

kxmode wrote:
The only thing original about the book is the idea that a vampire lives in a forest, doesn't drink blood, and sparkles in the sun. Except that's not a vampire... that's a blooming Fairy! Fairies are what girls like; and unicorns. When I was in grade school I remembered most of my female classmates covered their binders with fairy and unicorn stickers. But in our increasingly jaded culture teenage girls have also taken a liking to darkly things like Vampires and werewolves. The only original thing Stephenie Meyer did was blend vampires (something evil) with fairies (something good) into one.


The "Vampires" are also narcissist's, see when these vampires are in the sun instead of bursting to flames they sparkle! And if they are in the Sun too long they turn into a Crystallized Stone figure of their beautiful bodies for eternity.



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01 Jul 2010, 6:15 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
Xenu wrote:
It is because the books where written so that stupid people are able to read the horribly cliched and unoriginal and just not good books. The films plots are the same way, made in an easy to understand fashion for idiots.


Precisely.


Twilight wasn't actually bad, it was just extremely mediocre. It had potential, but it seemed too by-the-numbers in terms of plot and nauseating in the romantic prose. That's my opinion of it, anyway.

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kxmode wrote:
The only thing original about the book is the idea that a vampire lives in a forest, doesn't drink blood, and sparkles in the sun. Except that's not a vampire... that's a blooming Fairy! Fairies are what girls like; and unicorns. When I was in grade school I remembered most of my female classmates covered their binders with fairy and unicorn stickers. But in our increasingly jaded culture teenage girls have also taken a liking to darkly things like Vampires and werewolves. The only original thing Stephenie Meyer did was blend vampires (something evil) with fairies (something good) into one.


The "Vampires" are also narcissist's, see when these vampires are in the sun instead of bursting to flames they sparkle! And if they are in the Sun too long they turn into a Crystallized Stone figure of their beautiful bodies for eternity.


The sparkling and the baseball game were the most original elements of that book. But I love how you think of them as narcissists, Xenu. That seems to be standard for many literary vampires. Even one of the first literary vampires in English, Lord Ruthven, might be, although I haven't read The Vampyre.

As for fairies, well, I wonder how many girls like the Artemis Fowl series compared to the boys. Artemis Fowl is streets ahead of Twilight.


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01 Jul 2010, 6:24 pm

A waste of vampires and werewolves.. and the English language - I just hope she doesn't decide to write a book about zombies.



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01 Jul 2010, 6:32 pm

*shrug* i've learned to just ignore it and let the tweenies have their fun.

dude, dude: Artemis Fowl just can't be compared to Twilight. I tried reading Twilight before the craze when i was 15 and found the writing a bit childish. Artemis Fowl on the other hand was engaging and fascinating.


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01 Jul 2010, 6:49 pm

One movie reviewer I watch said that this movie was scary, but not due to the plot or anything, but what the message of the movie is which boils down to:

!. get yourself married as soon as possible to a domineering man and be subservient to him.
2. virginity is everything.



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01 Jul 2010, 6:49 pm

I'm backing up Quatermass on this, especially since he mentioned Artemis Fowl.



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01 Jul 2010, 6:54 pm

They drool over them because its a fantasy thing. They find it extremely romantic the way a vampire sweeps them off their feet and intergrates their super powers into both of their lives.

I've read the series and think little of it, but i'm not confused as to why they all love him.

Many people fantasise about things that aren't real, and they seem much more appealing because they're super human. If it was just some normal dude he wouldn't be nearly as appealing. Hell I even fantasise about being able to teleport to visit the guy I like.

It's being romanced by a fairytale and its not uncommon at all. People love Edward the same way kids love fairy tales.



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01 Jul 2010, 6:54 pm

darkstone100 wrote:
One movie reviewer I watch said that this movie was scary, but not due to the plot or anything, but what the message of the movie is which boils down to:

!. get yourself married as soon as possible to a domineering man and be subservient to him.
2. virginity is everything.


Ah Mormonism at it's finalist

It is only fitting that somebody
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who believes in something so ridiculous,stupid, sexist, racist, cliched, poorly written, and full of plot wholes
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could could up with something so ridiculous,stupid, sexist, cliched, poorly written, full of plot wholes and just unoriginal.
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01 Jul 2010, 7:05 pm

hey, i'll give to twilight that it had some interesting book covers. of course stephanie meyer wasn't the cover artist. *researches*

ah: Gail Doobinin (design) Roger Hagadone (photograph)


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01 Jul 2010, 7:59 pm

Celoneth wrote:
A waste of vampires and werewolves.. and the English language - I just hope she doesn't decide to write a book about zombies.


It'll probably be a hybrid of zombies and unicorns. Zombicorns? Teenage girls will be all over it as long as there's some sort of love triangle involving BBBBRRRRAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNSSSSSS!

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People love Edward the same way kids love fairy tales.


Ah-ha! You said "fairy." Ladies and ladies of the jury I present my evidence. I rest my case!


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01 Jul 2010, 8:06 pm

kxmode wrote:
Celoneth wrote:
A waste of vampires and werewolves.. and the English language - I just hope she doesn't decide to write a book about zombies.


It'll probably be a hybrid of zombies and unicorns. Teenage girls will be all over it!


8O i sincerely hope that thought never enters in to her head. then we'll be getting mummies and phoenixes.


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01 Jul 2010, 8:08 pm

tinky wrote:
kxmode wrote:
Celoneth wrote:
A waste of vampires and werewolves.. and the English language - I just hope she doesn't decide to write a book about zombies.


It'll probably be a hybrid of zombies and unicorns. Teenage girls will be all over it!


8O i sincerely hope that thought never enters in to her head. then we'll be getting mummies and phoenixes.


You have noooo idea.


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