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29 Apr 2006, 5:41 pm

The other day i was reading the article on "Mozart and the whale". It ends by saying that it is a good film but: "But don't look for this to be the film that communicates ASD awareness to the general public or makes it "cool" to be an aspie. That step must wait for some other film."

I taught "Well, let's do it". And that is what I propose here. I think there is enough poeple here to build a mountain of ideas with some brainstorming session. With a more or so coordinate work we would be able to find a good story from the best ideas and make a viable scenario. After that just find a producer and voilà!

If the story is good enough, producers will manifest themselves (with a bit of encouragment :wink: of course!).

So what it takes to make a good film ? First: ideas, second: a couple good and easy to catch storys that will run in parallel and cross each others somtimes, some good punch, some good action, a plethora of cocasses scenes, a good ending, moralisator but not too much, family type (no violence, no sex nor offending language etc, humoristic)....

Well, thats my view of it, I maybe wrong, probaly incomplete..., feel free to comment, reject, add anything... anyway the idea is there, we'll work on the details down the road. How many poeple here would participate in anyway ? I personnaly don't have many scenarios or storys ideas, maybe some anecdotes..., but i can "manage the projet" if you will, unless we have here a scenarist who would like to take the lead, i have no objection....

I sincerly think that we can team up and produce that film that will change our (PDD) lives and relations we have with NTs...

If the project starts, we will work in this thread for exchanging ideas etc... so it would have to be sticky.

Manifest your interest and ideas here.

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29 Apr 2006, 6:00 pm

A film composed of several short films from members here?

It could work very well!

I'll make one!


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29 Apr 2006, 6:07 pm

I'll buy myself a Webcam and make a film of me doing a three minute doccumentary on Routemasters and London Taxis. It will show me at my most "Aspacious". :D



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29 Apr 2006, 8:30 pm

well, there's certainly enough drama here to turn it in to a film. :lol:

i see WrongPlanet.net: The Film as being of the thriller genre. lots of super-villains and plot twists. a battle of good against evil, culminating in the fall of an empire.

how about this for a story-line (based on a true story)?:

once upon a time, on the planet Wrong, there was a civilisation of people who were charismatic and highly-evolved. but, all was not well on the planet Wrong. :( its inhabitants started to notice that other members of the community were going missing but, whenever any of them enquired about the whereabouts of their absent comrades, strange things would happen; public appeals for information about the missing persons would mysteriously vanish without a trace! sometimes, the people who tried to exchange information about the missing persons would go missing themselves! 8O to make matters worse, their wonderful planet appeared to be under invasion from the most despised race in the universe: the Enteemoms! :skull:

the scared people of the planet Wrong turned to their leader for answers. unfortunately, their planet was ruled by an evil dictator who threatened to exile anyone who questioned him. eventually, the people of Wrong started to migrate from their once beautiful planet. they started to build new communities such as NeuroLands, Intense City and On UrAnus. and, it was in these new communities that the refugees from Wrong were reunited with their long lost friends, :D some of whom they had once believed they would never see again. with renewed confidence, the former inhabitants of the planet Wrong were stronger than ever :ninja: and ready to fight back.

to be continued.....



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29 Apr 2006, 9:13 pm

:lol:



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29 Apr 2006, 9:21 pm

I want to play as my character.

I’m good at fart scenes.

Cuzuntight



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29 Apr 2006, 10:20 pm

BS!
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29 Apr 2006, 10:42 pm

Drucella wrote:
bull****!

i would think that, too, if i knew as little as you do.



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29 Apr 2006, 10:56 pm

8)



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29 Apr 2006, 11:20 pm

hmm we could have the battle of the pro neuro diversity people vs the "curebies". The parents of aspie children in denial of their very own aspieness, and the wrongly diagnosed - ie the aspies mistaken for ADHDs and put on drugs that make them worse.

BTW I think there are a few movies already done. I think the coolest parts of aspieness might be a little hard to make work for an audience unless you get an aspie character who like to do their own running thought commentary.

I think there are quite a few films featuring aspie characters already. I've read that Einstein and Mozart are both aspie. Has there been a film about Einstein's life? I think most of the stereotype einstein like characters in James Bond and other action movies are aspie like. All the "brains" characters and all the "villiage idiot" characters who foil a plot because what the other people are doing "is wrong" and must be reported. And maybe some of those anti social detectives, in the film noir, that get obsessed about a case and can't let go even when it gets dangerous. And are always remembering strange and obscure facts about older cases to solve this one. Now those are cool characters - and they almost always get a girl for some of the film.



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29 Apr 2006, 11:56 pm

I would enjoy debating pro cure vs anti-cure.



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30 Apr 2006, 1:25 am

Well, the first thing to start with is a script. It'd be interesting if we had a lot of different plot threads intertwine together, showing contrasting aspie lifestyles, beliefs, and what not. Maybe this could be done in a mockumentary style, a la Best in Show or This Is Spinal Tap. A lot of humor could be done with that, but also some good serious moments. Perhaps it could be leading up to a WrongPlanet meetup which would take place in the last half hour, and the characters would be the people intending on going to this meetup. So there'd be a lot of buildup to that, which would, of course, ultimately be the emotional climax, and could definately involve some pro-cure vs. anti-cure debating and what not, as well as other political debates.

I do like hecate's idea, though--it could be, like, the intro to the film, done as a flashback technique a la "Lord of the Rings." Except then we'd go to the real world, and we'd have some character based on hecate (maybe combined with several other members' quirks and what not) talking about this. It'd be a great character introduction scene. Throughout the film, there could be more scenes that sort of follow it up as the character incorporates new real-world events into this supervillain thriller version of WrongPlanet, scenes that would of course take place in this universe, as though they were going on at the same time. It'd all be symbolic of the "real" world events.

Also, I don't believe in hitting the audience over the head with a moral--that's just annoying and cheesy most of the time. If there's any moral at all, it must be as subtle as possible. And I don't think excessive fart scenes are a good idea--they're a staple of bad CGI comedies.

What do y'all think of that?



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30 Apr 2006, 1:32 am

Nutty Professor.



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30 Apr 2006, 7:07 am

moral

I don't think I'd be ramming a moral down anyones throats - but I'd like to see no character smoke.

I think I'd like an aspie focussed movie to show the character traits that aspies have in common and contrast that with the different way that one aspie handles the trait from another. Like I find in society it is more ok for men to be perceived arrogant (or insensitive) and eccentric than for women.

I also find interesting the variations in reaction to being diagnosed - so is that reflective of society or an aspie's social upbringing. Aspie traits like single mindedness, and logical thinking were highly valued in my family and yet I can see some of them resenting big time the idea that they may be wired wrong and they may perceive the diagnosis as being told they are wrong or they've been parenting wrong etc.

I think we could also introduce some dramatic conflict or comedy with the aspie taking the NT literally. There are plenty of stories in here where that has happened.



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01 May 2006, 9:49 am

A little quick brainstorming.....


List of things that should be treated (as already mentionned for some):

Cure vs anti-cure
reaction to diagnostic
parent (of a newly diagnosed child) in denial
Aspie diversity
What's common in aspie and what's not
Difference is not wrong
Savant skills
sensory overload (all senses)
theory of mind deficit
eye contact
Stereotyped movement
Prosopagnosia
Syntesthesia
CAPD (Central auditory processing deficit)
Visual thinking
Literal interpretation
Non-verbal (giving and understanding), posture
feel free to add

So to treat all of that we would need many Aspie caracters. I search a good context for that, first i thought "once upon a time, there was an Aspie group....". But i think this would automaticaly label the movie as "outsider" in NT's mind.... And suddenly i had this idea:

All aspie movie to date goes about the main caracter being an aspie and how he strugles thru an NT world... let reverse that. The main caracter is in the middle of a big family (lets say 7 or 8 child). They all displays various AS traits except him. He's the only pure NT in all that family. Now, because of dad's work assignation, they move in a new town (some kind of fictious "Silicon Valley"....). Important: they don't know about AS and it is not mentionned at the begining, a good part of the movie would be the diagnosting process and how it is accepted (or denied) by each member...


Oh! A last thing i thought of about logistics: If this really starts up we should not post specific content here..... Personnal message or a way of controling access to that thread or .... ?



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01 May 2006, 11:05 am

Coyote: That's a great list!

There used to be a show that came on TV that was entirely comprised of people speaking monologues about moments from their lives. The show used real actors to tell stories in first person narrative, but, as I remember, the actaul stories were sent in by viewers. It was very entertaining. Each one of the categories you've listed could be written or visually expressed as a moment from someone's life. People could tell their stories into a webcam, for example for use in the film.

Veresae wrote:
Well, the first thing to start with is a script. It'd be interesting if we had a lot of different plot threads intertwine together, showing contrasting aspie lifestyles, beliefs, and what not.


I like your ideas Veresae.

The possibilities are endless. In terms of production, this project could be a hypertext film. Hypertexts are web stories that can include still images, video, and sound to create a film. A hypertext film is one that can use many formats to create a film that is collaborated on and linked among members of a group.