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DarthMetaKnight
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23 Sep 2010, 11:05 am

I used the search bar and realized that there was no thread entirely about whaling, so I decided to make one. I hope this is a good idea.

Although I have nothing against eating beef or chicken I am personally against whaling. I think giving cetaceans special consideration is reasonable. I want to know when Japan is going to kick that habit.

I tried to find an anti-whaling link but they all had bloody pictures.


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23 Sep 2010, 11:08 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I used the search bar and realized that there was no thread entirely about whaling, so I decided to make one. I hope this is a good idea.

Although I have nothing against eating beef or chicken I am personally against whaling. I think giving cetaceans special consideration is reasonable. I want to know when Japan is going to kick that habit.

I tried to find an anti-whaling link but they all had bloody pictures.


The pictures are there (and bloody) for a reason. Shock value. It's one thing to say "Whalers cut blubber from whales" and another to show them stood knee deep in gore. Impact.

As for the actual "whaling nations"....if they kill all the whales, they will have no industry. Doesn't take a seasoned economist to work that out.


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23 Sep 2010, 3:10 pm

don't forget norway.....FRACKING NORWAY.....supports whaling. it's just amazing the lack of soul a human must have to be involved in killing a whale.

a great film about the japanese and dolphins is available. called THE COVE.

i've seen whales around the galapagos and off w coast of usa. inspirational.

watched a film once with ted nugent on an elephant hunt in southern africa. he had paid tens of thousands of dollars for a permit. walked up close to the elephant and shot it in the head with a specially designed rifle. he had a look on his face that was hard to describe.....glee.....rapture......sheer happiness..........must be the same feeling for whalers.
look how powerful i am. i conquered the beast. whatever these bastards think. beyond my ability to understand.



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23 Sep 2010, 4:22 pm

I am not particularly fond of killing ceteceans, but in a fight between the Whale War crew in the zodiac and the Japanese whalers, I root for the Japanese whalers. I would love to put a harpoon through that eco-phreak Zodiac.

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23 Sep 2010, 6:56 pm

Pigs are more intelligent than your dog, yet you have no problem with eating them.
I want to know when a plan to increase whale numbers to 1930s levels becomes apparent.



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23 Sep 2010, 7:03 pm

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I am not particularly fond of killing ceteceans, but in a fight between the Whale War crew in the zodiac and the Japanese whalers, I root for the Japanese whalers. I would love to put a harpoon through that eco-phreak Zodiac.

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^That.


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23 Sep 2010, 7:22 pm

Some of my Basque Ancestors were at one time whalers. They stopped and found work else where, that's life. The Japanese need to move on.


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23 Sep 2010, 8:03 pm

Whales of Industry topic

Some of my ancestors were also involved in the whaling industry...in the days when corsets were in fashion, and whale oil was used for lighting. Since these times have passed, there is a tourism business that can make far more money than harvesting a few whales for wasteful meat, with the rest thrown away.

Only First nations peoples in small bands need harvest ceteceans, as most are endangered as species.


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23 Sep 2010, 8:22 pm

ruveyn wrote:
I am not particularly fond of killing ceteceans, but in a fight between the Whale War crew in the zodiac and the Japanese whalers, I root for the Japanese whalers. I would love to put a harpoon through that eco-phreak Zodiac.

ruveyn


X2, those Sea Sheppard punks make me want to go spear a whale right now out of pure spite; they're based on an island just north of me in the sound and I'm embarrassed to share a body of water with them. They b*tch and moan about the whaler's breaking the law, then go and try to sabotage their boats and attack them on the high seas, it's total hypocrisy. Maybe the Japanese ought to take a page out of the French Intelligence playbook and just blow up their boats in the harbor, without the whole incompetence and getting caught thing.


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23 Sep 2010, 8:23 pm

BTW, nice job bringing up possible the ONLY contentious subject we haven't argued here before, that must have taken some real digging to come up with... :lol:


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23 Sep 2010, 8:50 pm

Taupey wrote:
The Japanese need to move on.


I think the Japanese are doing fine and Americans need to stop taking up stupid causes just because they think the animal is cute or don't have the stomach for what needs to be done.


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24 Sep 2010, 5:15 am

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X2, those Sea Sheppard punks make me want to go spear a whale right now out of pure spite; they're based on an island just north of me in the sound and I'm embarrassed to share a body of water with them. They b*tch and moan about the whaler's breaking the law, then go and try to sabotage their boats and attack them on the high seas, it's total hypocrisy. Maybe the Japanese ought to take a page out of the French Intelligence playbook and just blow up their boats in the harbor, without the whole incompetence and getting caught thing.


The Sea Shepherds are nothing but pirates and should be hanged from the highest yardarm or thoroughly keel-hauled.

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24 Sep 2010, 5:16 am

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Whales of Industry topic

Some of my ancestors were also involved in the whaling industry...in the days when corsets were in fashion, and whale oil was used for lighting. Since these times have passed, there is a tourism business that can make far more money than harvesting a few whales for wasteful meat, with the rest thrown away.

Only First nations peoples in small bands need harvest ceteceans, as most are endangered as species.


You will notice we no longer use whale oil for lubricating and lighting.

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24 Sep 2010, 8:24 am

I live in Australia. For some reason Australians are supposed to be against whaling.

Frankly my dear I don't give a damn.

Eat whales? Eat sheep? Eat cows? So who cares?

How can I say "You can't eat whales" while I will happily eat Tuna or Shark or Oysters or Squid?



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24 Sep 2010, 8:34 am

Ya, I don't really see why whales are particularly special either. As long as there is a healthy living population, I don't care about whaling.



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24 Sep 2010, 2:32 pm

The problem is that there *isn't* a healthy population. The Japanese aren't just going after the little minke and sei whales; they want to be able to kill everything that swims. The larger whales still have not recovered to pre-industrial whaling population levels, and now they are threatened b/c humans are competing with them for food (krill and smaller fishes) and poisoning the oceans in ways that kill off their food (herring in Alaska after the Valdeze spill, for example, still have not recovered).