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10 Nov 2010, 1:13 pm

I don't know if this is the place to discuss this but I was hoping to find people with a similar musical taste as me. I listen to a lot of deep trance stuff so it would be nice to be able to trade album names with someone.

Things I'm listening to at the moment are:

Cosmic Gate Back 2 Back 3
Cosmic Gate Back 2 Back 4
Solaris International radioshows
Lange Radioshows
Armin Var Buuren Radioshows



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10 Nov 2010, 2:01 pm

Here are the podcasts to which I subscribe for my Trance fix.
• Ambient podcast from Magnature -- has trance music sometimes
• Electronica podcast from Magnature
• GrooveElectronic
• Shake Down
• Space Music podcast from Magnature
• A State of Trance
• Techtronic Sound -- no longer current but archive shows may be available
• Trance Tuesdays
• World Electronic podcast from Magnature

Expect a PM from me with web link to my iTunes playlist.



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11 Nov 2010, 4:58 pm

Adamantus wrote:
I don't know if this is the place to discuss this but I was hoping to find people with a similar musical taste as me. I listen to a lot of deep trance stuff so it would be nice to be able to trade album names with someone.

Things I'm listening to at the moment are:

Cosmic Gate Back 2 Back 3
Cosmic Gate Back 2 Back 4
Solaris International radioshows
Lange Radioshows
Armin Var Buuren Radioshows


I listen to a lot of electronica but I'm not sure how much of it would be considered "trance" vs. prog, prog house, breaks, etc. I discover a lot of music through DJ sets but most of the big DJ's seemed to have migrated a way from trance a long time ago, then to prog, and these days a lot of minimal electronica etc. A lot of artists I like post their stuff on www.hybridized.org, and also www.soundcloud.com is a good source for other artists like Phrakture (my current favorite), Embliss, Duane Barry, Stefan Anion, Soundprank, Emissary, Abdomen Burst, Aeron Aether, Darin Epsilon, Trim The Fat.



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11 Nov 2010, 5:37 pm

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I listen to a lot of electronica but I'm not sure how much of it would be considered "trance" vs. prog, prog house, breaks, etc. I discover a lot of music through DJ sets but most of the big DJ's seemed to have migrated a way from trance a long time ago, then to prog, and these days a lot of minimal electronica etc. A lot of artists I like post their stuff on www.hybridized.org, and also www.soundcloud.com is a good source for other artists like Phrakture (my current favorite), Embliss, Duane Barry, Stefan Anion, Soundprank, Emissary, Abdomen Burst, Aeron Aether, Darin Epsilon, Trim The Fat.


Maybe I need to update my definition of what it is that I listen to. Solaris International, which is what I listen to most plays a lot of "Trance and Progressive" but I don't know whether I'm sure what the difference is. I hate the boring linear banging baseline and chavy vocals but I like the tracks with more subtlety to them. Some of my favourites are:

Bent - As you fall.
Come Home - Alpha 9
Diamonde - Asymetric Soul
Drifting - Dale Corderoy
My Sanctuary - First State
Pictures in my mind - Dave 202

I think those tracks are probably worth more than 80% of the other tunes I have, put together.



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11 Nov 2010, 8:02 pm

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Maybe I need to update my definition of what it is that I listen to. Solaris International, which is what I listen to most plays a lot of "Trance and Progressive" but I don't know whether I'm sure what the difference is. I hate the boring linear banging baseline and chavy vocals but I like the tracks with more subtlety to them. Some of my favourites are:

Bent - As you fall.
Come Home - Alpha 9
Diamonde - Asymetric Soul
Drifting - Dale Corderoy
My Sanctuary - First State
Pictures in my mind - Dave 202

I think those tracks are probably worth more than 80% of the other tunes I have, put together.


I never quite got the difference either except trance and prog are supposed to be sub-genres of house music, which is by definition supposed to use a 4/4 beat (i.e. four to the floor, thump thump thump thump with the drums on the main drum line, but also with some drum rolls, drum breakdowns etc). I think prog tends to have a bit of a deeper, bassier sound where trance is a bit more repetitive and relies more on a synth lead sound, especially in some of the hard core trance sub-genres, like goa-trance or psy-trance. Breaks by definition is not house music, as it doesn't use a regular 4/4 beat but instead uses a variety of different, more irregular beats.

Having said all that, I find that even when two people agree on the definition of what constitutes a genre of music, they might well both listen to the same song and disagree as to its genre. So I'm not sure there's a "right" and "wrong" to any of this stuff.

As to the tracks you mentioned, I'm certainly no expert at classifying this stuff but here's how I interpret them:

Bent - As you fall - is there a particular remix of this you are thinking of because I just listened to it on youtube and its WAY too downtempo to really be thought of as trance :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYwpUt0JoMc[/youtube]

Come Home - Alpha 9 - probably would be considered more prog or vocal trance

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABQ8M35oJpU[/youtube]

Diamonde - Asymetric Soul - couldn't find it on youtube


Corderoy - Drifting - This would probably be trance in my book, the trancy-est track so far
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5TvlN-lCbU&feature=related[/youtube]

My Dictionary - First State - to me this is really not trance, there isn't a steady uptempo beat - this would probably be considered downtempo, chillout, or even ambient or minimal....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OYeWQxmY_k[/youtube]

Pictures in my mind - Dave 202 - yes, this I think I would classify as trance

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FRokI5e34[/youtube]

Some older tracks I think would be considered as classic trance would be things like:

Cafe Del Mar - Energy 52:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVoYWHlxEzE[/youtube]


Robert Miles - Children

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCkAumK5b4[/youtube]

Binary Finary - 1998

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF2wKZMfdiI[/youtube]

Rank 1 - Airwave

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDtUUtuNzQ[/youtube]


Or for vocal trance, Tilt - Invisible

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1DM0I5B1Bo[/youtube]



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12 Nov 2010, 5:09 am

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Bent - As you fall - is there a particular remix of this you are thinking of because I just listened to it on youtube and its WAY too downtempo to really be thought of as trance...


Yes It's a remix, I knew about the original but don't listen to that. It's the Kyau & Albert Remix. This is about the best video I could find:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJsF4PvrYW0[/youtube]

Naturally familiar with those classics. I used to listen to that stuff but I think dance music has developed so much since then. I may have inadvertantly floated genres during that time. As the genres develop I think we all find more of what we like. I think I just like what sounds good rather than sticking to any rules.

P.s. I actually had to buy Diamonde - Asymetric Soul but it must be around on Filestube now. (Dave Horne Remix)
Pps: Dale Corderoy remix is: Drifting (Dale Corderoys Dfunkt mix)



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15 Nov 2010, 4:20 pm

Two tracks there - the first one "1999" the uploader labeled as "progressive house" but to me this track is somewhere between prog house and minimal since yes, its pretty sparse. I guess I think of "minimal" as having almost no drums and in a lot of this track (but not all of it) that is the case.

As for the 2nd track here "Ibiza" it almost is minimal again but I think there is too much drum beat to really call it that so prog house is probably more apt.



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15 Nov 2010, 10:40 pm

Adamantus wrote:
Yes It's a remix, I knew about the original but don't listen to that. It's the Kyau & Albert Remix. This is about the best video I could find:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJsF4PvrYW0[/youtube]


I like that one, and the Cafe del Mar track.

Podcasts and shows I listen to, either all or partial trance in some variants:
Trance Around The World with Above & Beyond
Back To Goa
Sound of Trance w/ Johnny Monsoon
Christopher Lawrence's Rush Hour Radio
DJ Zing's Centrifugal Force (only certain weeks its trance)



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16 Nov 2010, 10:42 am

Just found another beautiful track this morning, all remixes are good but I like the Sundriver Remix:

Mango - Good Morning (Sundriver Remix)



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16 Nov 2010, 11:20 am

I haven't heard the original of that track from Mango, but i have heard the Sunn Jelie mix of it and its excellent. Also I like several of Mango's other tracks, especially his track Kites, both the original and the Shingo Nakamura remix). OPthers I'e heard from him that are good would be:

Lollipop Girl (embliss remix)
Nacreous Cabrio (Aeron Aether mix)
Asphalt Lines (original)
Raining in Osaka (Shingo Nakamura mix)



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28 Nov 2010, 7:16 pm

New one:

Spieltape - Lonely Places I've never been
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1u2qbaNLTo[/youtube]

Is this kind of thing downtempo then? It's always difficult to find more of it.



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29 Nov 2010, 6:28 am

I love classic trance, all-time favourite tracks would have to be either the Atlantis mix of Solar Stone's Seven Cities:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbDSfhJrbW0&feature=related[/youtube]

Or Y-Traxx Mysterland:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB5Ilbipb6s[/youtube]



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29 Nov 2010, 6:36 am

Both classics of course. I always used to like Robert Miles - Dreamland album as well. More recently I've just found out about John Stanford - Deep Space, well worth a look:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWV1Qi8EQ1g&feature=related[/youtube]



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29 Nov 2010, 6:59 am

Adamantus wrote:
Both classics of course. I always used to like Robert Miles - Dreamland album as well. More recently I've just found out about John Stanford - Deep Space, well worth a look:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWV1Qi8EQ1g&feature=related[/youtube]


Thanks, I'm always on the lookout for new artists to check out. I love this Sander Kleinenberg mix of Wonderful, just seems great in this kind of weather:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-lMTVJsPnQ[/youtube]



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29 Nov 2010, 10:19 pm

Another great trance classic, and one of my all time favorite tunes.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrZTmunA6Tg[/youtube]